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In message , at 16:46:09 on Thu, 3 Jul
2014, tim..... remarked:
Everyone keeps overlooking that the 7 minutes in question is from
*platform* to *platform*.

I only overlooked it because the information wasn't in the post that
I replied to.

One should really take the effort to read rather more of a thread
before replying.

But even if I had done so, it was still someone's speculation that the
spokesman had used this "connections" time as the "walk from the TO"
time. He could have meant what he said (and it is co-incidence that
the numbers are the same)

It's simple (again, if you read the thread).

The spokesperson alleged that the 7 minutes [kerb to platform] was
"clearly published" in the timetable. But the *only* figure in the
timetable is *platform-platform* times when they differ from the
default of 5 minutes.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at
17:05:55 on Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Neil Williams
remarked:
And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play
a message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press
the illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

The number of times I have seen people nearly miss their stop by not
doing so causes me to think otherwise. Particularly on Pacers where
they are not obviously located. And an airport train/station will
probably have a disproportionate number of first time passengers.

I'm talking about full-and-standing commuter trains arriving at
Cambridge. They will have worked out how to get the doors open by now.
--
Roland Perry

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On 03/07/2014 08:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard cut-outs
telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

There are regular LU-only passengers who are used to doors opening by
magic, and who laugh at yokels needlessly pressing door buttons. And who
in return get laughed by the yokels when they do use National Rail, and
the doors don't open unless you push the button.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
.net...
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:04:42 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:
The question of course is how many destinations does Luton offer
that
Stansted doesn't.

Don't know, but it does offer the option of easyJet rather than Ryanair to
many destinations.

Most of the Wizzair destinations are unique to LCCs out of London.

One or two may even be unique to the Full priced airlines.

tim

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Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 03/07/2014 08:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard cut-outs
telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

There are regular LU-only passengers who are used to doors opening by
magic, and who laugh at yokels needlessly pressing door buttons. And who
in return get laughed by the yokels when they do use National Rail, and
the doors don't open unless you push the button.

True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

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On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Neil

--
Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

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In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

wrote:
Cambridge to Luton Airport via King's Cross is a bit of a long way
round and charged as such. You can do train to Hitchin, then bus,
then coach but you might as well get the coach through from
Cambridge.

A taxi from Luton Airport to Hitchin then the train has got me out of
trouble a few times when I've missed the last bus. The taxi was about 18
quid, so it can't be too far away.

It isn't that far which is why I think the bus connections are so
disappointing.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

wrote:
Cambridge to Luton Airport via King's Cross is a bit of a long way
round and charged as such. You can do train to Hitchin, then bus,
then coach but you might as well get the coach through from
Cambridge.

A taxi from Luton Airport to Hitchin then the train has got me out of
trouble a few times when I've missed the last bus. The taxi was about 18
quid, so it can't be too far away.

It isn't that far which is why I think the bus connections are so
disappointing.

Yeah you are right

It's no further than STN to Harlow and that gets a bus 24/7

tim

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On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

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In message , at 23:59:26 on Fri,
4 Jul 2014, Theo Markettos remarked:
Cambridge to Luton Airport via King's Cross is a bit of a long way round and
charged as such. You can do train to Hitchin, then bus, then coach but you
might as well get the coach through from Cambridge.

A taxi from Luton Airport to Hitchin then the train has got me out of
trouble a few times when I've missed the last bus. The taxi was about 18
quid, so it can't be too far away.

Using my rule of thumb that such taxis are ~£2/mile, I'm happy to
confirm it's 10 miles [google maps].
--
Roland Perry

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On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:07:05 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

Didn't they do the same on the D stock? Must depend on what group of directors
are in charge at any given time whether the trains get door buttons or not,
though you'd think it would be simpler and cost less to leave buttons already
there in place, not to mention the short sightedness of removing functionality
for no apparent gain.

--
Spud

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In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

Who was it that talked about people who try and fail at the same thing
repeatedly somehow expect the next result to be different? How many times
have LT/LUL introduced stock with door opening buttons that are then
disabled?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article , d
() wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:07:05 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be
opened again as long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

Didn't they do the same on the D stock? Must depend on what group of
directors are in charge at any given time whether the trains get door
buttons or not, though you'd think it would be simpler and cost less to
leave buttons already there in place, not to mention the short sightedness
of removing functionality for no apparent gain.

D Stock was delivered with buttons which were removed and plated over at
refurbishment having been disabled earlier.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:07:05 +0100, Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:
The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS?

I've seem them in use once, I think in early 1999. It was a snowy day and
as we headed north and left the tunnel at East Finchley the driver made an
announcement that he was going to switch the doors to manual to keep a bit
of heat inside and we would have to press the button to open the doors.

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In message of Mon, 7 Jul
2014 10:33:50 in uk.railway, David Walters writes
On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:07:05 +0100, Recliner
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:
The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS?

I've seem them in use once, I think in early 1999. It was a snowy day and
as we headed north and left the tunnel at East Finchley the driver made an
announcement that he was going to switch the doors to manual to keep a bit
of heat inside and we would have to press the button to open the doors.

I was at Mill Hill East on a cold winter's morning. (I think in 2013.)
The staff closed all doors but one on each carriage.

Given that customer door controls operate on S7 and S8 stock and on
London Overground trains, it may be appropriate to reinstate them, at
least at outdoor London Underground termini. Carriages at High Barnet
and Cockfosters can be bitterly cold in winter.
--
Walter Briscoe