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Peter Able July 18th 14 07:08 PM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of
Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when Off-Peak
applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?

PA

Peter Able July 19th 14 07:57 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
On 18/07/2014 22:02, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:08:20 +0100, Peter Able stuck@home wrote:

Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of
Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when Off-Peak
applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


I don't think so.

http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/2014/0...eak-changes-2/


Many thanks, Paul. Just another example of Scrambled Oyster, then.

--
PA

Roland Perry July 19th 14 08:06 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
In message , at
20:08:20 on Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Peter Able
remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of
Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future
and a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_2_] July 19th 14 08:34 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
20:08:20 on Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Peter Able remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?


"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of Peak cap."


That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.


Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future and
a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


If you look at the relevant page, you can see that Chesham is in line with
other outlying Met stations, that do have trains in the relevant period:

Station Time of Touch In
Chesham 09:10*
Amersham 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer 09:20
Chorleywood 09:15
Rickmansworth 09:20

* Warning: first train from Chesham is not until 0934. You are not advised
to touch in before 0930 or you may be overcharged.

http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/peak-off-peak-and-caps/

Roland Perry July 19th 14 09:16 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
In message

, at 03:34:19 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Recliner

remarked:
If you look at the relevant page, you can see that Chesham is in line with
other outlying Met stations, that do have trains in the relevant period:

Station Time of Touch In
Chesham 09:10*
Amersham 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer 09:20
Chorleywood 09:15
Rickmansworth 09:20

* Warning: first train from Chesham is not until 0934. You are not advised
to touch in before 0930 or you may be overcharged.


So it's just bad luck, and today's timetable, which has this 24 minute
wormhole. Apart from that, it's surprisingly consistent.

--
Roland Perry

Peter Smyth[_2_] July 19th 14 10:10 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
Recliner wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
20:08:20 on Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Peter Able
remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing

something about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on

a weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as
you go fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap
instead of Peak cap."
That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the
future and a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


If you look at the relevant page, you can see that Chesham is in line
with other outlying Met stations, that do have trains in the relevant
period:

Station Time of Touch In
Chesham 09:10*
Amersham 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer 09:20
Chorleywood 09:15
Rickmansworth 09:20

* Warning: first train from Chesham is not until 0934. You are not
advised to touch in before 0930 or you may be overcharged.

http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/peak-off-peak-and-caps/


The Chalfont time looks odd. If there was a 0912 from Amersham, then
Amersham/Chorleywood/Rickmansworth passengers would be off-peak, but
Chalfont passengers peak?

Peter Smyth

Peter Able July 19th 14 10:55 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
On 19/07/2014 09:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
20:08:20 on Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Peter Able remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of
Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future
and a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


Hopefully not. It has taken quite a write-in campaign to get TfL to
move what was the 0929 departure to 0934.

PA


Peter Able July 19th 14 10:58 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
On 19/07/2014 09:34, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
20:08:20 on Fri, 18 Jul 2014, Peter Able remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future and
a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


If you look at the relevant page, you can see that Chesham is in line with
other outlying Met stations, that do have trains in the relevant period:

Station Time of Touch In
Chesham 09:10*
Amersham 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer 09:20
Chorleywood 09:15
Rickmansworth 09:20

* Warning: first train from Chesham is not until 0934. You are not advised
to touch in before 0930 or you may be overcharged.

http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/peak-off-peak-and-caps/


It's a shame that TfL don't copy the above linked page's added content
(principally, the asterisked note) to their own page.

PA


Roland Perry July 19th 14 11:52 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
In message , at
11:58:45 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Peter Able
remarked:
"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?

Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future and
a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


If you look at the relevant page, you can see that Chesham is in line with
other outlying Met stations, that do have trains in the relevant period:

Station Time of Touch In
Chesham 09:10*
Amersham 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer 09:20
Chorleywood 09:15
Rickmansworth 09:20

* Warning: first train from Chesham is not until 0934. You are not advised
to touch in before 0930 or you may be overcharged.

http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/peak-off-peak-and-caps/


It's a shame that TfL don't copy the above linked page's added content
(principally, the asterisked note) to their own page.


What is it about Chesham, and/or the unofficial site, which makes the
author think TfL won't honour their commitment after 9.10?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry July 19th 14 11:53 AM

Oyster Cap confusion
 
In message , at
11:55:58 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Peter Able
remarked:
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but am I missing something
about Oyster capping?

"If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Hatch End on a
weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go
fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap instead of
Peak cap."

That touch in time for Chesham is given as "After 09:10"

But the next Chesham departure "After 09:10" is at 09:34 - when
Off-Peak applies to fares, anyway.

Am I missing something?


Maybe it's in case there's a timetable change some time in the future
and a train timed at say 09.14 is introduced.


Hopefully not. It has taken quite a write-in campaign to get TfL to
move what was the 0929 departure to 0934.


Is that for people travelling on paper tickets (where perhaps the rule
is still 0930?)

What possible objection would there be to an additional train at 0914,
for Oyster users?
--
Roland Perry


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