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In message , at 14:01:06 on Wed, 3 Sep 2014,
Mizter T remarked: How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las Vegas planned for next year). Just because most destinations are in Europe doesn't equate to the airport serving "very limited destinations" It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. - that would mean just a few destinations, and there are in fact many. I wonder how many are served the twice a day needed to make useful business trips (out in the morning, back in the evening a day or two later). I suspect (but don't have the time to check) that many destinations are less than daily. -- Roland Perry |
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![]() On 03/09/2014 15:11, Neil Williams wrote: On 2014-09-03 12:41:52 +0000, David Cantrell said: If you lived in, for example, Hastings, which airport would you prefer to go to? Obviously Gatwick, yet Hastings is neither near Victoria or a Thameslink station. There are modes of transport other than trains. Luton and Stansted are mainly reached by car and taxi, and serve a wide area of the Home Counties and East Anglia as such. Indeed Luton is to a fairly significant extent a "South Midlands and Home Counties Airport" rather than a London one. Incorrect for Stansted, which had 51% of pax using public transport (bus, coach and rail) in 2013 - see page 23: http://www.stanstedairport.com/media/1220647/sustainable-development-plan-surface-access-online-lr-20.08.14.pdf Luton meanwhile had 32% of pax using public transport in 2010 - page 21, PDF page 11: http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/download/179/Airport%20Surface%20Access%20Strategy.pdf |
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On 2014-09-03 14:44:46 +0000, Roland Perry said:
It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe, and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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![]() On 03/09/2014 15:44, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:01:06 on Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Mizter T remarked: How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las Vegas planned for next year). Just because most destinations are in Europe doesn't equate to the airport serving "very limited destinations" It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. The man on the Clapham Omnibus would not regard Stansted as serving a "very limited" range of destinations, nor would a court. The Roland Perry interpretation of language thus doesn't stand up. - that would mean just a few destinations, and there are in fact many. I wonder how many are served the twice a day needed to make useful business trips (out in the morning, back in the evening a day or two later). I suspect (but don't have the time to check) that many destinations are less than daily. Two recent articles about Ryanair increasing frequencies on key business routes, many from Stansted: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-business-drives-ryanair39s-uk-domestic-401054/ http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/240503/ryanair-delivers-on-stansted-growth-promise/ |
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![]() On 03/09/2014 15:52, Neil Williams wrote: On 2014-09-03 14:44:46 +0000, Roland Perry said: It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe, and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you. On that theme, a significant number of pax from around Europe use it for DIY transfers. |
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In message , at 15:52:57 on Wed, 3 Sep
2014, Neil Williams remarked: It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe, and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you. Are you saying that the branding I mentioned is already what the general public understands to be the case? -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 16:02:21 on Wed, 3 Sep 2014,
Mizter T remarked: Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers try Heathrow", then fine. The man on the Clapham Omnibus would not regard Stansted as serving a "very limited" range of destinations, nor would a court. The Roland Perry interpretation of language thus doesn't stand up. It's limited to *some* destinations, almost exclusively in *Europe*. (And not necessarily daily) There are many places *in* Europe and even more *outside* Europe which make it a very long way from being a general purpose airport like Heathrow or Gatwick, or even Birmingham and Manchester. -- Roland Perry |
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On 2014-09-03 15:10:56 +0000, Roland Perry said:
Are you saying that the branding I mentioned is already what the general public understands to be the case? Branding by the airport? Probably not. But it is certainly well understood that, essentially, you go to Stansted to fly Ryanair (or to a much lesser extent easyJet) to Europe. It isnt *branded* as anything other than London Stansted Airport, which says nothing about where you can fly from there. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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