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On 05/09/2014 14:16, JNugent wrote:
OTOH, how do I get to the USA or Canada (let's not even mention the Antipodes) except by flying? http://www.cunard.co.uk/cruise-ships/queen-mary-2/ -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 05/09/2014 14:16, JNugent wrote: OTOH, how do I get to the USA or Canada (let's not even mention the Antipodes) except by flying? http://www.cunard.co.uk/cruise-ships/queen-mary-2/ This is more my kind of cruise liner (admittedly not very practical as a way of getting to New York in a hurry, and it doesn't have a 3D or any other kind of cinema, nor a shopping mall, swimming pool, casino, theatre, etc): https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57646248350410 I took this pic in the Minch. Here's another, with a sliver of railway relevance, taken off Thurso: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57647048741926 |
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On 2014-09-05 19:42:21 +0000, Arthur Figgis said:
On 05/09/2014 14:16, JNugent wrote: OTOH, how do I get to the USA or Canada (let's not even mention the Antipodes) except by flying? http://www.cunard.co.uk/cruise-ships/queen-mary-2/ Though ships are not spectacularly environmentally friendly, either. And flying is no worse than if each passenger had driven an average family car, though obviously that isn't an overly practical way of crossing the Atlantic. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On 2014-09-05 19:07:44 +0000, d said: Who said anything about a fear of flying? Though it is the most miserable and unpleasent way to travel long distance this side of a NEx bus. Some of us happen to disagree. I personally quite enjoy it. Me too, but then, unlike Boltar, I'm not afraid of flying. I've also noticed that most people with that fear dress it up in other ways, just as he does. Then, if they go on a fear of flying course, they suddenly change, and are quite happy to fly, forgetting all their previous reasons for not doing so. People I've met with this fear sometimes developed it after a bad flight, while others are just afraid of not being in control when the plane manoeuvres in the sky. When they do fly, they avoid window seats (I love them) and some also have a fear of heights. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On 2014-09-05 19:42:21 +0000, Arthur Figgis said: On 05/09/2014 14:16, JNugent wrote: OTOH, how do I get to the USA or Canada (let's not even mention the Antipodes) except by flying? http://www.cunard.co.uk/cruise-ships/queen-mary-2/ Though ships are not spectacularly environmentally friendly, either. And flying is no worse than if each passenger had driven an average family car, though obviously that isn't an overly practical way of crossing the Atlantic. Ships have traditionally burnt cheap, dirty bunker fuel, but the rules have been tightened up at US and EU ports, so they now have to buy more expensive, but cleaner fuel. But that's not true everywhere, so ships in those areas emit dirty black smoke. Cruise liners also travel much more slowly than the old express ocean liners, which keeps down the pollution, though that's not why they do it. |
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On 2014-09-05 22:31:16 +0000, Recliner said:
People I've met with this fear sometimes developed it after a bad flight, while others are just afraid of not being in control when the plane manoeuvres in the sky. When they do fly, they avoid window seats (I love them) and some also have a fear of heights. Exit row window is my preference (exit row for the legroom, window for looking out!) For tomorrow's flight to Milan I have 11A - spot on. BA from T5 as well, should be nice and civilised. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On 2014-09-05 22:31:16 +0000, Recliner said: People I've met with this fear sometimes developed it after a bad flight, while others are just afraid of not being in control when the plane manoeuvres in the sky. When they do fly, they avoid window seats (I love them) and some also have a fear of heights. Exit row window is my preference (exit row for the legroom, window for looking out!) For tomorrow's flight to Milan I have 11A - spot on. BA from T5 as well, should be nice and civilised. Yes, I really like T5 and BA. Enjoy your flight! |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 17:31:16 -0500, Recliner wrote: People I've met with this fear sometimes developed it after a bad flight, while others are just afraid of not being in control when the plane manoeuvres in the sky. When they do fly, they avoid window seats (I love them) and some also have a fear of heights. Reminds me of my first flight. I'd not given it a second thought despite never having flown. I was sat next to a young woman who was repeatedly fiddling with a bracelet. She obviously saw me looking at what she was doing and said it was some sort of "calming" device as she didn't like flying. I probably didn't help by saying "I've never flown and have no idea whether I am scared or not". I'm not good with heights but have no issue with looking out of an aeroplane even when coming in to land. I also enjoy take off as you hurtle down the runway wondering if several tons of plane, people and cargo can make it off the ground. ;-) The thing that gets me is taking off in a propeller plane. They always seem to be slow to get off the ground, making me wonder if it'll ever take off, but then rise up anyway. They often have nice big windows, too. Perhaps my hairiest flight was in a small single-engined sight-seeing plane over the Grand Canyon, where I occupied the co-pilot's seat. The pilot could see me taking pics, so he went out of his way to bank steeply as we manoeuvred over the Canyon, so I got the best possible shots. The rising air was bumpy, so I felt the need to hang on, but not to any of the moving dual controls in front of me. It was one of those exhilarating flights which you simultaneously want to go on forever, and to end immediately. A more amusing flight was taking off from Aberdeen's short runway. The pilot has to go for maximum thrust, and an ice bucket came loose in the forward galley as we banked away. The ice cubes slid smoothly right down the full length of the 757, staying perfectly in the centre, demonstrating how well balanced a plane is, with zero cant deficiency. The loneliest flight is from Santiago to Easter Island, the world's most isolated airport. The entire route is over the South Pacific, with nothing at all underneath and no diversion airports. Consequently, no more than one plane at a time can be en route to it, lest one have a bad landing and block the single runway. I've no idea where the nearest railway station is, but it's certainly thousands of miles away. |
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