Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?
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Roland Perry

In message , at 10:09:58 on
Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Paul Corfield remarked:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?

Could be a discounted PAYG journey on rail.

How does the gate know to apply a discount, and where the journey is
going to end?

The bus fare was £1.35 two years ago and I don't think any CPC
functionality was live back then. I do recall Tom Edwards (BBC London)
doing a feature on CPC use many months on the buses where you see a
card being touched in on a NB4L.

It could of course just be a mock-up.
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Roland Perry

On 16/09/2014 10:09, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?

Could be a discounted PAYG journey on rail. The bus fare was £1.35
two years ago and I don't think any CPC functionality was live back
then. [...]

It was - CPC payments went live on London buses on 13 December 2012.

(Discounts - Railcards etc - can't be associated with CPCs.)

In message , at 11:10:14 on Tue, 16 Sep
2014, Mizter T remarked:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?

Could be a discounted PAYG journey on rail. The bus fare was £1.35
two years ago and I don't think any CPC functionality was live back
then. [...]

It was - CPC payments went live on London buses on 13 December 2012.

(Discounts - Railcards etc - can't be associated with CPCs.)

So perhaps a bit of "library footage" from 2012?

ps What's the bus fare now? The TfL site is always extraordinarily
reluctant to discuss actual fares, other than "how to pay". But I
thought I found a reference to £1.35 today.
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Roland Perry

On 16/09/2014 11:49, Roland Perry wrote:
[...]
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

Unhelpfully they show someone touching a reader and being told they've
been charged £1.35, that must be a bus, shirley?

Could be a discounted PAYG journey on rail. The bus fare was £1.35
two years ago and I don't think any CPC functionality was live back
then. [...]

It was - CPC payments went live on London buses on 13 December 2012.

(Discounts - Railcards etc - can't be associated with CPCs.)

So perhaps a bit of "library footage" from 2012?

Presumably so (I didn't see it).


ps What's the bus fare now? The TfL site is always extraordinarily
reluctant to discuss actual fares, other than "how to pay". But I
thought I found a reference to £1.35 today.

£1.45 (daily cap is £4.40).

From the home page - "Fares & payments" on the top bar, then on the
next page click on the "Fares" box in the middle of the page, then - and
this is the bit that's not remotely intuitive - you land on the "Tube,
DLR and LO" fares page and then you need to click "Bus & tram" on the
right-hand side menu to get there...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/bus-and-tram

Likewise, you need to click "National Rail" on that right-hand side menu
to get to the NR Oyster fares.

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent security
risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me one of these damn
things I disabled it straight away by cutting through the antenna which also
has the added bonus that I can have it in my wallet with my oyster and not
have to worry at the gate.

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Spud

On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

What idiots use contactless debut cards anyway with all the inherent security
risks? There's a reason for PINs. As soon as my bank sent me one of these damn
things I disabled it straight away by cutting through the antenna which also
has the added bonus that I can have it in my wallet with my oyster and not
have to worry at the gate.

It won't happen overnight, but I'm in little doubt that contactless
payments for public transport in London will prove to be a great success
(and will drive the adoption and usage of contactless to an extent).

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:49:31 +0100
Mizter T wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
It won't happen overnight, but I'm in little doubt that contactless
payments for public transport in London will prove to be a great success

Oh more than likely. The masses always put a minor increase in convenience
ahead of anything else despite what they may say.

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Spud

On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of £66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the £11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...in-london.html


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:39:24 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 16/09/2014 12:37, d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:27:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Starts today, and featured on BBC TV local news.

I'd be interested to know how much all this cost when there are somewhat more
pressing issues to sort out on the tube.

"The roll-out has cost a total of £66m, and TfL expects to more than
recover the £11m cost of software development by licensing it to other
transport operators around the world." according to
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...less-payment-a
rives-in-london.html

Yeah, right - because its their technology developed in house. Not. The most
technical thing TfL can manage without outside help is a bit of train and
track maintenance.

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Spud