On 06/11/2014 20:58, Richard wrote:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near
enough.


--
Clive Page

In message , at 15:27:51 on Sat, 8 Nov
2014, Clive Page remarked:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near
enough.

I presume this would have been on the branch which was built as far as
Charing Cross, whose JLE station is used now mainly as a film set.
--
Roland Perry

Clive Page wrote:
On 06/11/2014 20:58, Richard wrote:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near enough.


Presumably the original Fleet line route would have taken the Jubilee line
that way, but the realigned JLE doesn't go anywhere close. The Central line
does, but there's no station near enough to connect to City Thameslink.

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:27:51 on Sat, 8 Nov
2014, Clive Page remarked:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near enough.

I presume this would have been on the branch which was built as far as
Charing Cross, whose JLE station is used now mainly as a film set.

Actually, the abandoned Jubilee Line Charing Cross station isn't on the
JLE. It's on the old Fleet Line alignment.

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 15:46:50 on Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Recliner
remarked:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near enough.

I presume this would have been on the branch which was built as far as
Charing Cross, whose JLE station is used now mainly as a film set.

Actually, the abandoned Jubilee Line Charing Cross station isn't on the
JLE. It's on the old Fleet Line alignment.

Wouldn't they have called it the JLE if it had been finished?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septemb
er.org, at 15:46:50 on Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Recliner remarked:
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line,

Where is that then? And I didn't know that the Jubilee Line went near enough.

I presume this would have been on the branch which was built as far as
Charing Cross, whose JLE station is used now mainly as a film set.

Actually, the abandoned Jubilee Line Charing Cross station isn't on the
JLE. It's on the old Fleet Line alignment.

Wouldn't they have called it the JLE if it had been finished?

No, it was part of the original 1930s Jubilee (nee Fleet) Line. The Jubilee
Line phase 2 would have continued under the Strand, Fleet St and Ludgate
Hill to Cannon St, with the third phase crossing the river to Lewisham. I
don't think the JLE name would have been used at all.

In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

On 2014\11\07 07:17, Mizter T wrote:

I suppose it's a bit unusual, but is the voltage changeover that big an
attraction? (I guess it it!)

My list of things to see wasn't just things that are worth going to
see, but included things which are worth pointing out if you happen
to be going past them.

A good point. Hence the discussion because it is more likely that we will
change trains at Farringdon than at City Thameslink.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article

rg, (Recliner) wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2014\11\07 10:16, Recliner wrote:
wrote:

I wonder why some trains change at Farringdon then?

Dunno. Maybe they are expected to keep up to speed with changes at both
stations?

The plan in the TL2000 documents was to do all changeovers at City
instead of Farringdon, because the dual-electrified sidings at City can
be used to get trains with pantographs stuck up or down out of the way
of the other trains. Farringdon of course used to have the
dual-electrified Moorgate Branch as a place to hide trains with stuck
pantographs, but lost that when the platforms were extended over the
junction (which I presume has happened by now), so I'd be very surprised
if any trains were still changing power at Farringdon.

Are the City Thameslink sidings new? They're not in my atlas either. I don't
remember seeing anything last time I went there.

The Moorgate City Widened line closed almost five years ago!

And anyway the Moorgate City Widened lines were overhead 25KV AC electrified
only.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 16:27:45 on Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Recliner
remarked:
Actually, the abandoned Jubilee Line Charing Cross station isn't on the
JLE. It's on the old Fleet Line alignment.

Wouldn't they have called it the JLE if it had been finished?

No, it was part of the original 1930s Jubilee (nee Fleet) Line. The Jubilee
Line phase 2 would have continued under the Strand, Fleet St and Ludgate
Hill to Cannon St, with the third phase crossing the river to Lewisham. I
don't think the JLE name would have been used at all.

Why did they use "E" rather than "phase 2" for what they did build?
Perhaps just a popularist title that the Cannon St bit would also have
had.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septemb
er.org, at 16:27:45 on Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Recliner remarked:
Actually, the abandoned Jubilee Line Charing Cross station isn't on the
JLE. It's on the old Fleet Line alignment.

Wouldn't they have called it the JLE if it had been finished?

No, it was part of the original 1930s Jubilee (nee Fleet) Line. The Jubilee
Line phase 2 would have continued under the Strand, Fleet St and Ludgate
Hill to Cannon St, with the third phase crossing the river to Lewisham. I
don't think the JLE name would have been used at all.

Why did they use "E" rather than "phase 2" for what they did build?
Perhaps just a popularist title that the Cannon St bit would also have had.

I suppose it was because what they eventually built for the JLE was
something entirely new, not the originally planned phase 2 of what they
started building in the 1970s. In the same vein, I see the Battersea
extension is already being called the NLE.