Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28Nov
 

http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mastercard-fare-free-friday-free-travel-londoners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing
"Priceless London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that contactless
cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable car or on
river buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the
exotic destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with the
Venn diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card is
with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &28 Nov
 

On 10/11/2014 19:35, Mizter T wrote:

http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mastercard-fare-free-friday-free-travel-londoners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing
"Priceless London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that contactless
cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable car or on
river buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the
exotic destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with the
Venn diagram.

Argh - actually I'm wrong about that (at least w.r.t. Broxbourne and
Shenfield).

There's more on this offer he
http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/mastercard-offers-free-contactless-travel-in-london-on-november-14-and-28-1272417

"Daily spends will be capped at £21.80 (the price of a full day of
unlimited travel on TfL services), and this will be automatically
refunded to your account."

(Don't take the reference to "TfL services" literally - it includes NR
services in London too.)


However, the £21.80 figure mentioned above doesn't cover the daily peak
cap of £23.80 from/to Broxbourne, £23.80 from/to Brentwood, or £27.30
from/to Shenfield.

Those daily peak caps can be found in these fares tables (from page 4
onwards):
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/national-rail-adult-fares.pdf

The peak daily caps from Watford Junction (£21.80), Theobalds Grove and
Waltham Cross (£19.60), Cheshunt (£19.60), and Ockendon, Chafford
Hundred, Purfleet and Grays (all £21.80) - so these would all appear to
be valid for this Mastercard offer.

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...
http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mastercard-fare-free-friday-free-travel-londoners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing "Priceless
London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that contactless
cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable car or on river
buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the exotic
destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with the Venn
diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card is
with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Before anyone gets carried away with the idea of totally free unlimited
travel for the day it may be as well to read the full T&Cs. I found them
here
(http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...&goto=newpost\
) and noticed two in particular worth reading:

5. The offer entitles MasterCard Contactless card and device holders to
receive a refund against their travel costs, made with a MasterCard
Contactless card or device, on the London Underground, London Buses, London
Overground, Docklands Light Railway, participating National Rail services in
London and the Tramlink during the Promotional Period, to a maximum value of
£9.80. The offer is as stated and nothing else is included.

6. The refund will take up to 28 working days from the end of the
Promotional Period to appear in the MasterCard Contactless card and device
holder's account.

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In message , at 19:58:46 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, MikeS remarked:

a refund
....
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

Did the newspaper jump the gun with the £21.80 figure?
--
Roland Perry

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &28 Nov
 

On 10/11/2014 20:07, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 19:58:46 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, MikeS remarked:

a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

Did the newspaper jump the gun with the £21.80 figure?

It was a tech news website, TechRadar, that produced the £21.80 figure.
It looks like they might well have just picked the highest daily cap
they found (£21.80 being the highest cap for TfL tariff services, e.g.
the 'Tube' rate).

I did look on the Mastercard Priceless website for further info before
posting but alas I couldn't anything - I should have looked around
elsewhere a bit more first.

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &28 Nov
 

On 10/11/2014 20:07, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 19:58:46 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, MikeS remarked:

a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

The first sentence I understand - you're alluding to the peak zones 1&2
cap, and the off-peak zones 1-6 cap.

But the second sentence I can't decipher - these days there are no daily
caps that exclude zone 1 (used to be, and sadly missed, but that's
another story).

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28
 

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:


http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mas...ree-travel-lon
doners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing
"Priceless London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that
contactless cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable
car or on river buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage
Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the
exotic destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with
the Venn diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card
is with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Oh, woe is me too! I have an HSBC credit which used to be Mastercard but
they switched me to Visa. Bother!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &28 Nov
 

On 10/11/2014 19:58, MikeS wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:
http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mastercard-fare-free-friday-free-travel-londoners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing "Priceless
London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that contactless
cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable car or on river
buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the exotic
destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with the Venn
diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card is
with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Before anyone gets carried away with the idea of totally free unlimited
travel for the day it may be as well to read the full T&Cs. I found them
here
(http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...&goto=newpost\
) and noticed two in particular worth reading:

5. The offer entitles MasterCard Contactless card and device holders to
receive a refund against their travel costs, made with a MasterCard
Contactless card or device, on the London Underground, London Buses, London
Overground, Docklands Light Railway, participating National Rail services in
London and the Tramlink during the Promotional Period, to a maximum value of
£9.80. The offer is as stated and nothing else is included.

6. The refund will take up to 28 working days from the end of the
Promotional Period to appear in the MasterCard Contactless card and device
holder's account.


Thanks Mike - not quite as it first seemed (of course).

£9.80 will cover a lot of people, but certainly far from everyone (e.g.
a zones 1-6 NR-only journey is £5.90 peak, £3.60 off-peak - an NR+Tube
'through fare' is more, at £7.50 peak, £5.10 off-peak).

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &28
 

On 10/11/2014 21:07, wrote:

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:


http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mas...ree-travel-lon
doners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing
"Priceless London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that
contactless cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable
car or on river buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage
Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the
exotic destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with
the Venn diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card
is with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Oh, woe is me too! I have an HSBC credit which used to be Mastercard but
they switched me to Visa. Bother!

Worth looking at MikeS's post in this thread - there's a maximum £9.80
refund on offer, so it's a "Fare Free Friday" only up to a certain point
(or rather fare).

Visa Europe seems to have offered a pretty unbeatable deal to banks for
debit cards, as those that offered Maestro (nee Switch) mostly defected
to Visa a few years back - perhaps your credit card change was a result
of the same effect.

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &
 

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 10/11/2014 21:07, wrote:

In article , (Mizter
T) wrote:


http://www.cityam.com/1415624433/mas...ree-travel-lon
doners-14-and-28-november-using-contactless

Friday 14 and Friday 28 November, part of Mastercard's ongoing
"Priceless London" promotional exercise.

Those looking to exploit this to the full should note that
contactless cards don't work 'Oyster-style' (tap-in etc) on the cable
car or on river buses, nor does it work on the 15H Heritage
Routemaster buses.

But Watford Junction, Broxbourne, Shenfield and Grays - as stations
outside the zones but in what was once given the unofficial moniker
'Oyster-land' (now 'Oyster & contactless land'?) - are some of the
exotic destinations one can reach gratis courtesy of the card with
the Venn diagram.

Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card
is with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Oh, woe is me too! I have an HSBC credit which used to be
Mastercard but
they switched me to Visa. Bother!

Worth looking at MikeS's post in this thread - there's a maximum
£9.80 refund on offer, so it's a "Fare Free Friday" only up to a
certain point (or rather fare).

Visa Europe seems to have offered a pretty unbeatable deal to banks
for debit cards, as those that offered Maestro (nee Switch) mostly
defected to Visa a few years back - perhaps your credit card change
was a result of the same effect.

Dunno. HSBC never explained it.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 &
 

On 10/11/2014 21:25, wrote:

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:
[...]
Alas, I'm 'with' Visa (which payment network a debit or credit card
is with is not something that exercises me a great deal!)

Oh, woe is me too! I have an HSBC credit which used to be
Mastercard but they switched me to Visa. Bother!

[...]
Visa Europe seems to have offered a pretty unbeatable deal to banks
for debit cards, as those that offered Maestro (nee Switch) mostly
defected to Visa a few years back - perhaps your credit card change
was a result of the same effect.

Dunno. HSBC never explained it.

Well, they wouldn't ("we're switching to Visa to save some money and
hence bump up our bottom line" isn't the kind of customer facing
communication banks really go in for!).

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In message , at 21:05:13 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, Mizter T remarked:
a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

The first sentence I understand - you're alluding to the peak zones 1&2
cap, and the off-peak zones 1-6 cap.

But the second sentence I can't decipher - these days there are no
daily caps that exclude zone 1 (used to be, and sadly missed, but
that's another story).

I was taking it off a pdf I googled from the TfL site (I can never
navigate that site to a price-list, they seem to keep it well hidden).

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms...o-adult-fares-
jan-2014.pdf

And that shows (eg) an off-peak price cap of £8.50 for Z5-6 on the top
line of page 2. It's also populated with the £21.80 figure (for zonal
combinations not including Z1).
--
Roland Perry

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28
 

In message , at 21:14:27 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, Mizter T remarked:
Oh, woe is me too! I have an HSBC credit which used to be Mastercard but
they switched me to Visa. Bother!

Worth looking at MikeS's post in this thread - there's a maximum £9.80
refund on offer, so it's a "Fare Free Friday" only up to a certain
point (or rather fare).

Visa Europe seems to have offered a pretty unbeatable deal to banks for
debit cards, as those that offered Maestro (nee Switch) mostly defected
to Visa a few years back - perhaps your credit card change was a result
of the same effect.

My two non-contactless cards which I'd prefer to use for the tube [but
can't] are one each Visa and Mastercard - not my choice, it just
happened like that.

I also have a contactless Mastercard, but am unlikely to be in London on
the Fridays in question.
--
Roland Perry

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 21:05:13 on Mon, 10 Nov
2014, Mizter T remarked:
a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

The first sentence I understand - you're alluding to the peak zones 1&2
cap, and the off-peak zones 1-6 cap.

But the second sentence I can't decipher - these days there are no
daily caps that exclude zone 1 (used to be, and sadly missed, but
that's another story).

I was taking it off a pdf I googled from the TfL site (I can never
navigate that site to a price-list, they seem to keep it well hidden).


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms...lt-fares-jan-2
014.pdf

And that shows (eg) an off-peak price cap of £8.50 for Z5-6 on the top
line of page 2. It's also populated with the £21.80 figure (for zonal
combinations not including Z1).

Yes, but £8.50 is also the off-peak price cap for Z1-6!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In message , at 05:41:25
on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, remarked:
a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones if
you avoid the central area.

The first sentence I understand - you're alluding to the peak zones 1&2
cap, and the off-peak zones 1-6 cap.

But the second sentence I can't decipher - these days there are no
daily caps that exclude zone 1 (used to be, and sadly missed, but
that's another story).

I was taking it off a pdf I googled from the TfL site (I can never
navigate that site to a price-list, they seem to keep it well hidden).


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares-jan-2014.pdf

And that shows (eg) an off-peak price cap of £8.50 for Z5-6 on the top
line of page 2. It's also populated with the £21.80 figure (for zonal
combinations not including Z1).

Yes, but £8.50 is also the off-peak price cap for Z1-6!

I see what you mean. That's a bit underhand of them.

Meanwhile, where does the £9.80 come from? There's nothing close to it
in the table.
--
Roland Perry

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
05:41:25 on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, remarked:
a refund
...
to a maximum value of £9.80.

So that's roughly zone 2 peak, zone 6 off-peak. Or one or two zones
if you avoid the central area.

The first sentence I understand - you're alluding to the peak zones
1&2 cap, and the off-peak zones 1-6 cap.

But the second sentence I can't decipher - these days there are no
daily caps that exclude zone 1 (used to be, and sadly missed, but
that's another story).

I was taking it off a pdf I googled from the TfL site (I can never
navigate that site to a price-list, they seem to keep it well hidden).



http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms...ult-fares-jan-
2014.pdf

And that shows (eg) an off-peak price cap of £8.50 for Z5-6 on the top
line of page 2. It's also populated with the £21.80 figure (for zonal
combinations not including Z1).

Yes, but £8.50 is also the off-peak price cap for Z1-6!

I see what you mean. That's a bit underhand of them.

Meanwhile, where does the £9.80 come from? There's nothing close to
it in the table.

My question too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

Did the newspaper jump the gun with the £21.80 figure?

I haven't checked the MSE site, but the £21.80 figure is clearly stated in
Mastercard's T&C for this offer.

http://promotions.mastercard.co.uk/T...iday_Offer.pdf

Regards
Sunil

Mastercard's "Fare Free Friday" for contactless travel - 14 & 28 Nov
 

In message , at
10:42:55 on Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Sunil Sood
remarked:
Did the newspaper jump the gun with the £21.80 figure?

I haven't checked the MSE site, but the £21.80 figure is clearly stated in
Mastercard's T&C for this offer.

http://promotions.mastercard.co.uk/T...iday_Offer.pdf

That's the second "Free Friday".

On the other hand, here it's still got £9.80 for the first one:

http://promotions.mastercard.co.uk/T...d_Contactless_
TfL_Free_Fare_Friday_Full_TCs_07112014.pdf

Assuming neither is a misprint, then perhaps the newspaper read the
second one and didn't check that the first was the same.
--
Roland Perry