"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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On 2014\12\14 11:51, tim..... wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 19:18:56 on Fri, 12
Dec 2014, Michael R N Dolbear remarked:

From the 12 January 2015, South West Trains passengers will be unable
to interchange at Waterloo East for London Bridge as services will
not be stopping at London Bridge. This is expected to continue until
August 2016.

How many people made that change?

Or does the London Bridge works mean that some people will be
commuting into Waterloo and connecting to LB, rather than commuting
direct to LB?

I don't think so

all of the SET services that are no longer running to CX are diverted to
Vic

Wow. How the hell is there room for them? Are loads of local trains being
scrapped,

Yep

The longer distance trains that usually run into Vic are making additional
stops so that the locals that usually run into Vic can be canned.

The free-ed up paths are then being used for diverted CX trains

tim

On 14/12/2014 19:03, wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
12:26:40 on Sun, 14 Dec 2014, remarked:
all of the SET services that are no longer running to CX are diverted
to Vic

Do any of those services have a possibility of changing at Clapham
Junction for Waterloo?

How would they manage that?

Dunno. I was under the impression that Clapham Junction also served
some trains to Victoria.

*South Eastern* trains? By what route? How much do you know of the layout in
the Clapham Junction to Battersea area?

If South Eastern trains were somehow able to switch to the Waterloo
route at Clapham Junction [which, at least for practical purposes, they
can't], then the whole issue of the possibility of changing at Clapham
Junction wouldn't arise. But if the SE trains stop at Clapham Junction,
then there is a pretty obvious possibility that some pax might change
for SWT services to Waterloo instead of staying on the SE service to
Victoria.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
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On 14/12/2014 19:03, wrote:
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
12:26:40 on Sun, 14 Dec 2014, remarked:
all of the SET services that are no longer running to CX are diverted
to Vic

Do any of those services have a possibility of changing at Clapham
Junction for Waterloo?

How would they manage that?

Dunno. I was under the impression that Clapham Junction also served
some trains to Victoria.

*South Eastern* trains? By what route? How much do you know of the layout
in
the Clapham Junction to Battersea area?

If South Eastern trains were somehow able to switch to the Waterloo route
at Clapham Junction [which, at least for practical purposes, they can't],
then the whole issue of the possibility of changing at Clapham Junction
wouldn't arise. But if the SE trains stop at Clapham Junction, then there
is a pretty obvious possibility that some pax might change for SWT
services to Waterloo instead of staying on the SE service to Victoria.


There are no SE Trains services that pass through Clapham Junction, so the
question doesn't arise.

--
DAS

In article , (D A Stocks)
wrote:

"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/12/2014 19:03, wrote:
In article ,
(Roland Perry) wrote:

In message , at
12:26:40 on Sun, 14 Dec 2014, remarked:
all of the SET services that are no longer running to CX are
diverted to Vic

Do any of those services have a possibility of changing at Clapham
Junction for Waterloo?

How would they manage that?

Dunno. I was under the impression that Clapham Junction also served
some trains to Victoria.

*South Eastern* trains? By what route? How much do you know of the
layout in the Clapham Junction to Battersea area?

If South Eastern trains were somehow able to switch to the Waterloo
route at Clapham Junction [which, at least for practical purposes,
they can't], then the whole issue of the possibility of changing at
Clapham Junction wouldn't arise. But if the SE trains stop at
Clapham Junction, then there is a pretty obvious possibility that
some pax might change for SWT services to Waterloo instead of
staying on the SE service to Victoria.

There are no SE Trains services that pass through Clapham Junction,
so the question doesn't arise.

Couldn't some SE services reach Waterloo via Nunhead, Peckham Rye and
Linford St junction and Nine Elms Junction (i.e. the old Eurostar flyover)?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 14/12/2014 20:09, D A Stocks wrote:
"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/12/2014 19:03, wrote:
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
12:26:40 on Sun, 14 Dec 2014, remarked:
all of the SET services that are no longer running to CX are
diverted
to Vic

Do any of those services have a possibility of changing at Clapham
Junction for Waterloo?

How would they manage that?

Dunno. I was under the impression that Clapham Junction also served
some trains to Victoria.

*South Eastern* trains? By what route? How much do you know of the
layout in
the Clapham Junction to Battersea area?

If South Eastern trains were somehow able to switch to the Waterloo
route at Clapham Junction [which, at least for practical purposes,
they can't], then the whole issue of the possibility of changing at
Clapham Junction wouldn't arise. But if the SE trains stop at Clapham
Junction, then there is a pretty obvious possibility that some pax
might change for SWT services to Waterloo instead of staying on the SE
service to Victoria.


There are no SE Trains services that pass through Clapham Junction, so
the question doesn't arise.

I wondered if the references to Clapham Junction meant that someone had
had found a way to send some there! (didn't some SE trains used to go
via Croydon in the dim and distant past?)


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In article ,
lid (Arthur Figgis) wrote:

I wondered if the references to Clapham Junction meant that someone
had had found a way to send some there! (didn't some SE trains used
to go via Croydon in the dim and distant past?)

Not in the South Eastern franchise but the SECR had a route nearly that way
to the West London Extension via Factory Junction, Longhedge Junctions and
Latchmere Junction.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 13/12/2014 15:41, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 15:25:29 on Sat, 13 Dec
2014, D A Stocks remarked:
From the 12 January 2015, South West Trains passengers will be
unable to interchange at Waterloo East for London Bridge as services
will not be stopping at London Bridge. This is expected to continue
until August 2016.

How many people made that change?

A lot of people from SWT-land working in the London Bridge area.

Is it enough to cause an issue?

Yes. See the number of people making a Waterloo East - London Bridge
journey in the morning peak, for instance.

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Couldn't some SE services reach Waterloo via Nunhead, Peckham Rye and
Linford St junction and Nine Elms Junction (i.e. the old Eurostar
flyover)?


I mentioned a proposal to divert some services to Waterloo International
further back in the thread. I assume it's not possible - I can think of
various reasons, including the likelihood that the former boat train and
then Eurostar paths are now being used for other Victoria services.

--
DAS

In article , (D A Stocks)
wrote:

wrote in message
...

Couldn't some SE services reach Waterloo via Nunhead, Peckham Rye and
Linford St junction and Nine Elms Junction (i.e. the old Eurostar
flyover)?

I mentioned a proposal to divert some services to Waterloo
International further back in the thread. I assume it's not possible
- I can think of various reasons, including the likelihood that the
former boat train and then Eurostar paths are now being used for
other Victoria services.

I was just suggesting the connections are still there to make it physically
possible. I'm sure you are right the paths aren't there.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 13:03:59
on Sun, 14 Dec 2014, remarked:
I was under the impression that Clapham Junction also served
some trains to Victoria.

*South Eastern* trains? By what route? How much do you know of the layout in
the Clapham Junction to Battersea area?

Not much, obviously.
--
Roland Perry