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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:44:20 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 15:41:03 on Thu, 14 May 2015, e27002 aurora remarked: The slogan was once "a fair day's pay for a fair day's work". I take it that's been abandoned since "a good wage" is by no means the same thing. On the "excellent, good, fair, poor" scale, surely we can improve on fair! :-) That is the expression that came to mind. I happen to believe it cuts both ways. The employees at my local SWT station do an outstanding job. They should not? Yes, as in the corrected version. have to scrimp to survive. That sounds like an argument to increase the minimum wage, because plenty of hard-working(tm) people only get that much. Government should interfere with private contracts only where absolutely necessary. I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. are fairly secure, which should also count for quite a lot. Employment longevity does not put food in one's children's' stomachs. |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
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Fri, 15 May 2015, e27002 aurora remarked: Employment longevity does not put food in one's children's' stomachs. It does, compared with being on the dole. -- Roland Perry |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100
e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. -- Spud |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On 15/05/15 13:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
The previous government also reduced policemen's benefits, a very bad move indeed. On the contrary, about bloody time. Ian |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 13:15:58 +0100
e27002 aurora wrote: The previous government also reduced policemen's benefits, a very bad move indeed. One hopes that one day we will have a real, grassroots, working man's conservative movement in the UK. If they could get rid of the cranks, nutters and dead wood that would be UKIP. But I can't see it happening anytime soon. -- Spud |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:59:06 +0100
Mizter T wrote: On 15/05/2015 09:42, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. The grant from central government to the GLA for transport has been significantly cut back. I don't see how moving staff out of ticket offices and investing in even more expensive ticketing machines is going to reduce spending. Unless of course the long term plan is to dispense with said staff in a few years when they've been deemed to be "ineffective". Though hopefully whoever the next mayor is can at least stop this in its tracks before too much damage is done. -- Spud |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC),
d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:59:06 +0100 Mizter T wrote: On 15/05/2015 09:42, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. The grant from central government to the GLA for transport has been significantly cut back. I don't see how moving staff out of ticket offices and investing in even more expensive ticketing machines is going to reduce spending. Unless of course the long term plan is to dispense with said staff in a few years when they've been deemed to be "ineffective". Though hopefully whoever the next mayor is can at least stop this in its tracks before too much damage is done. The stranger needs a counter, or a window, where he can ask for help and be sold the correct ticked regardless of what denominations his money is in, or what sort of credit card he has. I have been in exactly this situation in San Francisco. The gates are automated, tickets are sold by machines that, back then, only took the correct coins. The one human being on duty told me to leave the station and come back with right change. SF Muni is fascinating system. But, I find it hard to consider myself a fan. |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. It's odd that you think Boris is both bone idle and inclined to manage TfL in such a detailed way. |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:48:26 +0100, e27002 aurora
wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC), wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:59:06 +0100 Mizter T wrote: On 15/05/2015 09:42, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. The grant from central government to the GLA for transport has been significantly cut back. I don't see how moving staff out of ticket offices and investing in even more expensive ticketing machines is going to reduce spending. Unless of course the long term plan is to dispense with said staff in a few years when they've been deemed to be "ineffective". Though hopefully whoever the next mayor is can at least stop this in its tracks before too much damage is done. The stranger needs a counter, or a window, where he can ask for help and be sold the correct ticked regardless of what denominations his money is in, or what sort of credit card he has. I have been in exactly this situation in San Francisco. The gates are automated, tickets are sold by machines that, back then, only took the correct coins. The one human being on duty told me to leave the station and come back with right change. SF Muni is fascinating system. But, I find it hard to consider myself a fan. BART is far from unique, But I stopped using them out of disgust when I lived in Union City (first stop out of Fremont, on the East Bay). I had used the train to go to Bakersfield at the South end of the Central Valley, several times. The first BART train on Saturday from Fremont connected with the Amtrak train at Richmond, for a pleasant and comfortable Amtrak ride the rest of the way. But one morning nobody bothered to open up the Union City station, so the BART train came and went. So I drove via I-580 and I-5. which was more tiring, less convenient and less comfortable. And I never used BART again when I lived there. |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
In article , d
() wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:59:06 +0100 Mizter T wrote: On 15/05/2015 09:42, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. The grant from central government to the GLA for transport has been significantly cut back. I don't see how moving staff out of ticket offices and investing in even more expensive ticketing machines is going to reduce spending. Unless of course the long term plan is to dispense with said staff in a few years when they've been deemed to be "ineffective". Though hopefully whoever the next mayor is can at least stop this in its tracks before too much damage is done. Sadly the truth is that even more expensive ticketing machines are cheaper than the salaries and pensions of staff. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:05:16 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. It's odd that you think Boris is both bone idle and inclined to manage TfL in such a detailed way. It doesn't take much effort to come up with stupid ideas and then tell someone else to implement them. -- Spud |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 18:47:50 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote: On 15/05/15 15:24, d wrote: If they could get rid of the cranks, nutters and dead wood that would be UKIP. Taking the cranks, nutters and deadwood out of UKIP would be like taking the water out of Loch Lomond. There are some good well meaning people in the party who have genuine concerns about control by Brussels. But unfortunately they're outnumbered by the idiots and you can see what happens when idiots get voted into power - towit the SNP. A dead cat would have got in up there if it was wearing an SNP rosette and plenty did. -- Spud |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On 15/05/2015 17:21, Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:48:26 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: [...] SF Muni is fascinating system. But, I find it hard to consider myself a fan. BART is far from unique, But I stopped using them out of disgust when I lived in Union City (first stop out of Fremont, on the East Bay). I had used the train to go to Bakersfield at the South end of the Central Valley, several times. The first BART train on Saturday from Fremont connected with the Amtrak train at Richmond, for a pleasant and comfortable Amtrak ride the rest of the way. But one morning nobody bothered to open up the Union City station, so the BART train came and went. So I drove via I-580 and I-5. which was more tiring, less convenient and less comfortable. And I never used BART again when I lived there. Seems a bit petulant. |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 23:03:41 +0100, Mizter T
wrote: On 15/05/2015 17:21, Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:48:26 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: [...] SF Muni is fascinating system. But, I find it hard to consider myself a fan. BART is far from unique, But I stopped using them out of disgust when I lived in Union City (first stop out of Fremont, on the East Bay). I had used the train to go to Bakersfield at the South end of the Central Valley, several times. The first BART train on Saturday from Fremont connected with the Amtrak train at Richmond, for a pleasant and comfortable Amtrak ride the rest of the way. But one morning nobody bothered to open up the Union City station, so the BART train came and went. So I drove via I-580 and I-5. which was more tiring, less convenient and less comfortable. And I never used BART again when I lived there. Seems a bit petulant. Indeed, but it can be very annoying to be severely inconvenienced by a public body that is supposed to be at one's service. In 1975 my spouse was eight months pregnant with our first child. In those days we lived in Hammersmith and attended Church in Roehampton. The bus service was hourly. As we were walking to the bus stop on our return journey our bus, an RM, passed us. I ran and had caught it. But, the conductress would not wait for my spouse to struggle the last 30 feet. Suddenly I saw London Transport in a new light. That bitch will never know how much good will she cost her employer that day. Worth noting that Bart and Muni are not the same thing. Bart is a multi-county heavy rail mass transit system that covers a large part of the San Francisco bay area. Muni is a light rail system that operates within the County of San Francisco only. -- |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 13:39:11 -0500,
wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:59:06 +0100 Mizter T wrote: On 15/05/2015 09:42, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 08:10:06 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: I suspect that most jobs on the railway (except perhaps tube station ticket office staff) Now we may observe an enormous public sector folly in real time. Only a public body could be this stupid. Pity the poor tourist arriving in London in need of guidance on using TfL services. To be fair the blame can be squarely laid at the door of the blonde buffoon. TfL simply have to do as their told. God help us if Boris ever becomes PM, it'll be a ****ing disaster (and I speak as a Tory voter) not least because the man is bone idle and is more interested in promoting himself than doing what he's paid to do. The grant from central government to the GLA for transport has been significantly cut back. I don't see how moving staff out of ticket offices and investing in even more expensive ticketing machines is going to reduce spending. Unless of course the long term plan is to dispense with said staff in a few years when they've been deemed to be "ineffective". Though hopefully whoever the next mayor is can at least stop this in its tracks before too much damage is done. Sadly the truth is that even more expensive ticketing machines are cheaper than the salaries and pensions of staff. TfL, or a public body of its nature, should by sufficiently well financed, and efficiently run, that it can appoint the staff neccessary to do the job. There is an ongoing need for a human presence. Strangers need a point, a window, or counter, to which they can go for help. |
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On 16/05/15 08:14, e27002 aurora wrote:
There is an ongoing need for a human presence. Strangers need a point, a window, or counter, to which they can go for help. Since many strangers in London are foreign, good multilingual machines are almost certainly much more use than an English-only counter service. Ian |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Fri, 15 May 2015 21:51:16 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote: On 15/05/15 20:13, d wrote: But unfortunately they're outnumbered by the idiots and you can see what happens when idiots get voted into power - towit the SNP. The SNP were almost voted into power in 2007 and formed a minority government. That was sufficiently popular that they were properly voted into power as a majority government in 2011. That was sufficiently popular that they were voted in to represent Scotland in 56 out of 59 Scottish constituencies this month. It's therefore a little hard to see what disasters you think happened. You think all those SNP MPs are professionals? The majority of them are a bunch of clueless idiots who under normal circumstances wouldn't have got within a mile of being elected. Mind you, it's always amusing to here UKIP supporters such as yourself Actually I vote Tory, but I sympathise with UKIPs main message and it seems 15 million other people did too. use precisely opposing arguments to explain why (a) Scotland MUST stay in the UK and (b) why the UK MUST leave Europe. It sounds like a pretty good example of cognitive dissonance which is easily resolved by I don't give a flying **** about the scots. Seems to me so long as they have their benefits, booze, heroin and can carry on with their self pitying sense of entitlement and have a nice long whinge (300 years and counting) most of them will be as happy as McLarry. My only reason for wanting scotland to stay in the UK is for military reasons. recognizing that UKIP are a bunch of loony little Englanders who loathe all foreigners and classify Scots as foreign. Keep taking the pills, one day you may even find a clue in the bottle. -- Spud |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Sat, 16 May 2015 17:20:04 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote: On 16/05/15 17:16, d wrote: You think all those SNP MPs are professionals? The majority of them are a bunch of clueless idiots who under normal circumstances wouldn't have got within a mile of being elected. You still haven't said what disasters you think have resulted from eight I never mentioned disasters, you did. Clearly as a feeble attempt at a straw man argument. But since you ask, how about the disaster that would have occured if Scotland had gone independent with the SNP basing all its economic projections on the high oil prices at the time. Around about now with an independent Scotland Sturgeon would be heading off to Brussels with a begging bowl to join the queue behind greece and spain. -- Spud |
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It's never amusing to hear UKIP detractors such as yourself use ill
thought-out generalisations to denigrate people who hold an alternative opinion. I voted UKIP ten days ago so I qualify as a UKIP supporter. a) I do not say Scotland MUST stay in the UK; b) I do not say UK MUST leave the European Union although I recognise that it may be eventually become advantageous to do so; c) I am not a little Englander and I do not hate all foreigners; d) I do not classify Scots as foreign. I live in Leyton, one of the most cosmopolitan areas of London. I could easily afford to move to an all-white part of the country but I choose to stay in Leyton. I suggest you refrain from glib and specious generalisations and instead try to understand why around 4 million people voted UKIP in the recent election. |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Sat, 16 May 2015 19:24:49 +0100
Mizter T wrote: On 16/05/2015 17:16, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 21:51:16 +0100 The Real Doctor wrote: [...] Mind you, it's always amusing to here UKIP supporters such as yourself Actually I vote Tory, but I sympathise with UKIPs main message and it seems 15 million other people did too. I've no idea why I'm reading this, but where do you get 15 million people from? 11 million Tory voters + 4 million UKIP. And while you might say that perhaps some of those Tory voters don't give a monkeys about a EU referendum I would suggest most do and the difference will be made up by the large amount of Labour voters who also do. -- Spud |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Sun, 17 May 2015 11:06:24 +0000 (UTC)
Alistair Gunn wrote: a yes vote. Or to put it another way, no disaster would've occured yet as even the "agressively optimistic" independence date wouldn't have occured let alone the much later "sober, realistic" date ... So you think the oil price will have gone up sufficiently by 2016 for the SNP to wheel out its knackered economic policy once more and for people to be dumb enough to fall for it? Lets face it , Scotland has to suck from the teet of somewhere, be it Westminster or Brussels because it doesn't have much of an economy to speak of. Its half that of yourshire FFS. The SNP knows this which is why its so pro EU because once its waved bye bye to westminster and the hand outs stop it'll need Brussels to provide the money. Of course the privosos that will come with it will be far worse than Westminster would ever ask for but by then Salmond and Sturgeon will be doing the after dinner circuit basking in their self righteousnous and won't give a ****. -- Spud |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On 2015-05-17, Robin9 wrote:
On 2015-05-15, The Real Doctor wrote: On 15/05/15 20:13, d wrote: There are some good well meaning people in the party who have genuine concerns about control by Brussels. Yeah, right, and the Socialist Workers' Party is full of people with a genuine concern for the poor. But unfortunately they're outnumbered by the idiots and you can see what happens when idiots get voted into power - towit the SNP. The SNP were almost voted into power in 2007 and formed a minority government. That was sufficiently popular that they were properly voted into power as a majority government in 2011. That was sufficiently popular that they were voted in to represent Scotland in 56 out of 59 Scottish constituencies this month. It's therefore a little hard to see what disasters you think happened. Mind you, it's always amusing to here UKIP supporters such as yourself use precisely opposing arguments to explain why (a) Scotland MUST stay in the UK and (b) why the UK MUST leave Europe. It sounds like a pretty good example of cognitive dissonance which is easily resolved by recognizing that UKIP are a bunch of loony little Englanders who loathe all foreigners and classify Scots as foreign. It's never amusing to hear UKIP detractors such as yourself use ill thought-out generalisations to denigrate people who hold an alternative opinion. I voted UKIP ten days ago so I qualify as a UKIP supporter. a) I do not say Scotland MUST stay in the UK; b) I do not say UK MUST leave the European Union although I recognise that it may be eventually become advantageous to do so; It will never be advantageous for me personally for the UK to leave the EU. I am sure I am a very, very long way from being the only one. c) I am not a little Englander and I do not hate all foreigners; d) I do not classify Scots as foreign. I live in Leyton, one of the most cosmopolitan areas of London. I could easily afford to move to an all-white part of the country but I choose to stay in Leyton. I suggest you refrain from glib and specious generalisations and instead try to understand why around 4 million people voted UKIP in the recent election. But your list above doesn't really help in understanding that. So why did you vote UKIP? Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry |
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On 17/05/15 12:35, d wrote:
Lets face it , Scotland has to suck from the teet of somewhere, be it Westminster or Brussels because it doesn't have much of an economy to speak of. Its half that of yourshire FFS. The per capita GVA of Scotland is greater than any part of England (including Yorkshire) except for London and the South-East. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countri...GVA_per_capita Ian |
UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 May 2015 19:24:49 +0100 Mizter T wrote: On 16/05/2015 17:16, d wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 21:51:16 +0100 The Real Doctor wrote: [...] Mind you, it's always amusing to here UKIP supporters such as yourself Actually I vote Tory, but I sympathise with UKIPs main message and it seems 15 million other people did too. I've no idea why I'm reading this, but where do you get 15 million people from? 11 million Tory voters + 4 million UKIP. And while you might say that perhaps some of those Tory voters don't give a monkeys about a EU referendum I would suggest most do and the difference will be made up by the large amount of Labour voters who also do. I think that's a nonsense claim to make you haven't a shred of evidence that it is true most people voted Tory because they wanted them to continue running the government, the fact that they offered a referendum is purely incidental to their choice. And I would go so far as to suggest that a large percentage of the people who voted UKIP aren't bothered either It is clear from the transfer of votes from LD to UKIP that UKIP have became the recipient of the protest votes that the LDs have traditionally collected |
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UK faces first major train strike in 20 years
On Sun, 17 May 2015 15:58:45 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote: On 16/05/15 18:45, d wrote: I never mentioned disasters, you did. Clearly as a feeble attempt at a straw man argument. What you wrote was "But unfortunately they're outnumbered by the idiots and you can see what happens when idiots get voted into power - towit the SNP." I am sill not sure what you think has happened since the SNP was voted into power. Can't you use google? Lets start with the NHS: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...endum-snp-cut- nhs-420702 Around about now with an independent Scotland Sturgeon would be heading off to Brussels with a begging bowl to join the queue behind greece and spain. UK budget deficit last year: £105,000,000,000. We're far from being the worst in europe: http://www.debtclocks.eu/public-debt...n-of-the-eu-me mber-states.html -- Spud |
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On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:46:25 +0100
"tim....." wrote: wrote in message And while you might say that perhaps some of those Tory voters don't give a monkeys about a EU referendum I would suggest most do and the difference will be made up by the large amount of Labour voters who also do. I think that's a nonsense claim to make Really? Well we'll have to disagree on that then. you haven't a shred of evidence that it is true No URL I can point you at no, but I do know people who vote Labour and Brussels advancing its power bothers them too. most people voted Tory because they wanted them to continue running the government, the fact that they offered a referendum is purely incidental to their choice. So where's your evidence for that statement? And I would go so far as to suggest that a large percentage of the people who voted UKIP aren't bothered either Now you're just talking out your arse. It is clear from the transfer of votes from LD to UKIP that UKIP have became the recipient of the protest votes that the LDs have traditionally collected Lib Dems lost votes to UKIP? Well thats a new one. Got anything to back that up either? -- Spud |
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On Mon, 18 May 2015 07:43:46 +0100
Martin Edwards wrote: As Orwell wrote in a different context, Scotland is no more capable of being independent than a cat or a dog. I am not hostile to the people, but they are being led. The cat analogy is probably quite good. Has the pretence of independence until its meal time, when its back at the bowl looking mournful and waiting for the handout. -- Spud |
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I voted UKIP because I refuse on principle to vote Tory, Labour or Liberal- Democrat, all three of whom have no real concern either for the practicality of running this country properly or for the well-being of the British people. I regard the three main parties as akin to the war lords in Afghanistan: interested in power for its own sake. |
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