Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the one
with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno why
they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I suppose
the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015, and features the solid orange of
London Overground on the West Anglia Metro services - Enfield Town,
Cheshunt (via S.S.) and Chingford (I wonder how they're going to
name/brand them), and the new solid blue of Crossra... easy, not quite
yet(!)... the new solid blue of 'TfL Rail', the interim brand being used
on the Shenfield Metro services that are transferring to TfL control (to
be operated by MTR) and will in future head into the new tunnel under
London heading west.

I was at St James Street station (Walthamstow) recently around dusk, and
it wasn't doing a very good job of being an attractive proposition of a
railway station. I think I shall take that as my measure of comparison
for the improvements that LO shall bring.

Also, I assume - correctly I very much hope - that the uncared for
Hackney Downs station is falling under LO management! The comparison in
welcomingness (to coin an awkward word) between that station and Hackney
Central (LO territory) around the corner is significant.

In message , at 00:39:30 on
Tue, 19 May 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the one
with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno why
they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I suppose
the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Where did you pick it up from?

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015,

Online it's still the December 2014 edition.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:39:30 on
Tue, 19 May 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the one
with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno why
they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I suppose
the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Where did you pick it up from?

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015,

Online it's still the December 2014 edition.

Presumably they only put the new one online once it's valid?

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 07:49:20 on Tue, 19 May 2015, Recliner
remarked:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the one
with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno why
they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I suppose
the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Where did you pick it up from?

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015,

Online it's still the December 2014 edition.

Presumably they only put the new one online once it's valid?

That would certainly be consistent with industry practice of keeping new
fares, timetables and route-maps a closely guarded secret until
commuters turn up at their stations on the day they come into force.
--
Roland Perry

In article

rg, (Recliner) wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:39:30 on
Tue, 19 May 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the
one with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno
why they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I
suppose the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Where did you pick it up from?

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015,

Online it's still the December 2014 edition.

Presumably they only put the new one online once it's valid?

Well, they changed the Victoria Line car line diagrams to show interchange
with London Overground at 3 stations late last month.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
In article

, (Recliner) wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:39:30 on
Tue, 19 May 2015, Paul Corfield remarked:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the
one with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno
why they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I
suppose the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Where did you pick it up from?

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015,

Online it's still the December 2014 edition.

Presumably they only put the new one online once it's valid?

Well, they changed the Victoria Line car line diagrams to show interchange
with London Overground at 3 stations late last month.

Physical maps take a while to print, distribute and place; online maps can
be replaced just in time.

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 09:55:36 on Tue, 19 May 2015, Recliner
remarked:
Physical maps take a while to print, distribute and place; online maps can
be replaced just in time.

So that's 4am on the 31st? 8am would be "just too late" for people
heading to work that morning and wanting to check the map.
--
Roland Perry

On 2015\05\18 21:38, Mizter T wrote:
Picked up a copy of the new "London's Rail & Tube services" map- the one
with London & the South East rail services on the reverse - dunno why
they ditched the nifty 'London Connections' name but whatever, I suppose
the newer name is more descriptive and perhaps less cryptic.

Anyway, it's valid from 31 May 2015, and features the solid orange of
London Overground on the West Anglia Metro services - Enfield Town,
Cheshunt (via S.S.) and Chingford (I wonder how they're going to
name/brand them), and the new solid blue of Crossra... easy, not quite
yet(!)... the new solid blue of 'TfL Rail', the interim brand being used
on the Shenfield Metro services that are transferring to TfL control (to
be operated by MTR) and will in future head into the new tunnel under
London heading west.

Presumably the Emerson Park line is orange too.

Is Haggerston, Hackney, Tottenham and Walthamstow really just a big mess
of orange lines that don't interchange? Very pooer.

On Tue, 19 May 2015 11:42:57 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 09:55:36 on Tue, 19 May 2015, Recliner
remarked:
Physical maps take a while to print, distribute and place; online maps can
be replaced just in time.

So that's 4am on the 31st? 8am would be "just too late" for people
heading to work that morning and wanting to check the map.

A day or two in advance would be ideal.

On 19/05/2015 11:42, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
-septemb
er.org, at 09:55:36 on Tue, 19 May 2015, Recliner
remarked:
Physical maps take a while to print, distribute and place; online maps
can be replaced just in time.

So that's 4am on the 31st? 8am would be "just too late" for people
heading to work that morning and wanting to check the map.

Oh Mr P, you do like to pick a fight where there isn't one.

None of the services are changing, just the operators.

Most commuters don't check the map each morning in case the lines have
moved overnight.