On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

So, then, will TfL trains be operating to Enfield Town, Chingford and
Cheshunt, the latter of which would be via the lock?

I guess that TfL will also operate out to Chingford, though not fast
services?

In message , at 00:12:24 on Sat, 30 May
2015, Mizter T remarked:

Not sure when MTR Crossrail's concession lasts until.

It's eight years, starting tomorrow with the Shenfield (aka TfL Rail)
services. The first ones to be branded Crossrail will be running from
May 2018 and the full route won't start until "late 2019", so that's
four years of introductory work and just four years with the finished
product.
--
Roland Perry

On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

One other thing: AIUI, TfL plans to replace the 315s and 317s with newer
rolling stock. Will those be the 378s or will they perhaps bring in
something reminiscent of the S-Bahns that one might see in Germany? (Not
like the ones on East Germany's Deutsche Reichsbahn, by the way )

On 2015\05\29 19:29, wrote:

I hope that they do last a while. The amount of changes in TOCs on the
Lea Valley Lines has made me lose track.

It's made quite a few people lose trains, but I didn't think it had made
anyone lose track.

On 30/05/2015 00:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

Arguably airports are the business and leisure gateway to London for
foreigners and hence having their links to London integrated with the
London area transport is a little more than zero logic I'd have thought?
Ditto of course for London based business and leisure travellers
leaving the capital.

It may also bring the prices down....

On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 12:12:27 AM UTC+1, Mizter T wrote:
Not sure when MTR Crossrail's concession lasts until.

Sometime in 2023 http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/operators/franchises.shtm.

PhilD

--

" wrote:
On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

One other thing: AIUI, TfL plans to replace the 315s and 317s with newer
rolling stock. Will those be the 378s or will they perhaps bring in
something reminiscent of the S-Bahns that one might see in Germany? (Not
like the ones on East Germany's Deutsche Reichsbahn, by the way )

Not 378s, but something newer, not yet selected.

On 30.05.15 23:22, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

One other thing: AIUI, TfL plans to replace the 315s and 317s with newer
rolling stock. Will those be the 378s or will they perhaps bring in
something reminiscent of the S-Bahns that one might see in Germany? (Not
like the ones on East Germany's Deutsche Reichsbahn, by the way )

Not 378s, but something newer, not yet selected.


I see.

So, AIUI, TfL Rail will at this point operate local services out to
Shenfield.

Will it not, however, operate local services on the Lea Valley Lines out
to Enfield, Chingford and Cheshunt, the latter destination being via
Southbury?

Will it

On 31.05.15 0:13, wrote:
On 30.05.15 23:22, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia
continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

One other thing: AIUI, TfL plans to replace the 315s and 317s with newer
rolling stock. Will those be the 378s or will they perhaps bring in
something reminiscent of the S-Bahns that one might see in Germany? (Not
like the ones on East Germany's Deutsche Reichsbahn, by the way )

Not 378s, but something newer, not yet selected.


I see.

So, AIUI, TfL Rail will at this point operate local services out to
Shenfield.

Will it not, however, operate local services on the Lea Valley Lines out
to Enfield, Chingford and Cheshunt, the latter destination being via
Southbury?

Will it


I guess not. I thought that TfL trains would also operate via Hackney
Downs to further down destinations.

On 30.05.15 23:22, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 30.05.15 0:06, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 19:33:54 +0100, "
wrote:

Will TfL also operate the Stansted Express, BTW, or will Abelia continue
to hold that concession?

No TfL will not operate any medium or long distance services nor any
that run via Tottenham Hale. They all remain with Abellio Greater
Anglia. Some peak hour services from Hertford East, run by AGA, will
continue to run semi fast via Seven Sisters. This is why Edmonton
Green, Seven Sisters and Hackney Downs retain the NR double arrow
simple on the new style Tube Map that is valid from Sunday. The semi
fasts stop at those London area stations.

There is zero logic in TfL having any involvement in express services
to Stansted.

One other thing: AIUI, TfL plans to replace the 315s and 317s with newer
rolling stock. Will those be the 378s or will they perhaps bring in
something reminiscent of the S-Bahns that one might see in Germany? (Not
like the ones on East Germany's Deutsche Reichsbahn, by the way )

Not 378s, but something newer, not yet selected.

What about the 345s?