On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:57 +0100
Neil Williams wrote:
A professional driver needs to drive to the capability of their
vehicle. Perhaps reduced acceleration will stop the passengers being

A professional driver yes, but we're talking london bus drivers here. I'm not
sure I'd class all of them as having a professional approach to the job.

c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control -
this has happened umpteen times.

*Loss* of steering control, or just loss of power-assist? I didn't

Almost certainly the latter, though in such a large vehicle it will be
almost impossible to turn the wheel when stationary if the power assist
has died.

--
Spud

Mr. Wolmar was recently on Venessa Feltz's phone-in programme on BBC Radio
London. He made a fool of himself and came across as a gormless bigot.

For example, on the question of Council Housing (or whatever euphemism
they're using this month) he maintained that the only reason houses were not
being built in large numbers in London was the hostility of Tory controlled local
authorities. When Venessa Feltz pointed out that local authorities not
controlled by the Tories were also not building houses he denied the
assertion. When she reminded him that many Council Leaders had told her
- and of course her "lovely listeners" - that the reason they were not building
them was the "right-to-buy" legislation, he insisted that was not true!

He was similarly bigoted on the subject of cars. Anyone who votes for such a
mindless muppet deserves all they get.

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:26:57 +0100
Neil Williams wrote:
A professional driver needs to drive to the capability of their
vehicle. Perhaps reduced acceleration will stop the passengers being

A professional driver yes, but we're talking london bus drivers here. I'm not
sure I'd class all of them as having a professional approach to the job.

c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control -
this has happened umpteen times.

*Loss* of steering control, or just loss of power-assist? I didn't

Almost certainly the latter, though in such a large vehicle it will be
almost impossible to turn the wheel when stationary if the power assist
has died.

Yes, I agree. Some amount of power steering would be essential with a heavy
bus. I'm guessing it has speed sensitive power steering, that should
provide more assistance at low speeds, but is failing to do so.

My car is like that, and sometimes if the battery is very low and only just
capable of starting the car, you don't initially get that extra assistance.
The car remains perfectly drivable, but steering at low speeds just needs a
bit more effort. It seems like the brake assist computer doesn't boot
properly if the battery is low; if your turn off and start again,
everything goes back to normal. The problem never occurs if the battery is
properly or even half charged, so the problem isn't easily repeatable: once
you've been running for a few minutes, the problem doesn't occur.

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:52:48 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
The allegations include

a) brake / handbrake problems.
b) slow acceleration meaning risk of misjudging moves into traffic.
c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control -
this has happened umpteen times.

http://www.mayorwatch.co.uk/londoner...-con-that-is-t
e-boris-bus/

I might be more inclined to believe what he said if he got some basic facts
right.

"The fact that they cannot operate on their electric motors because of battery
failure"

They're serial hybrids, the electric motors are the only things turning the
wheels. The diesel engine is a generator.

"Some buses disengage from gears"

What gears? Does he mean it comes out of drive mode?

“The most unreliable and poorly engineered bus that has ever been made�

Obviously this guy has a short memory. When boris buses start spontainiously
bursting into flames then perhaps he might have a point.

Who wrote this - oh Mr Wolmar, a well known source of unbiased commentary.
*cough*

Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it
was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope
of being backed by local lefties.

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it
was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope
of being backed by local lefties.

Perhaps we'll see him and Comrade Corbyn doing an open top bus campaign tour
around London. Wouldn't be a Boris Bus of course even if there was a cabriolet
version.

--
Spud

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Yup, it's all part of his mayoral campaign, and that document looks like it
was put together by Unite. Wolmar is busy flying the red flag in the hope
of being backed by local lefties.

Perhaps we'll see him and Comrade Corbyn doing an open top bus campaign tour
around London. Wouldn't be a Boris Bus of course even if there was a cabriolet
version.

I think that bus has already been booked by Diane Abbott and Comrade
Corbyn. Wolmar will have to cycle behind it.

Robin9 wrote:
y;149428 Wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:52:48 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:-
The allegations include

a) brake / handbrake problems.
b) slow acceleration meaning risk of misjudging moves into traffic.
c) the electrical system failing meaning loss of steering control -
this has happened umpteen times.

http://tinyurl.com/oha9v7v
e-boris-bus/-

I might be more inclined to believe what he said if he got some basic
facts
right.

"The fact that they cannot operate on their electric motors because of
battery
failure"

They're serial hybrids, the electric motors are the only things turning
the
wheels. The diesel engine is a generator.

"Some buses disengage from gears"

What gears? Does he mean it comes out of drive mode?

“The most unreliable and poorly engineered bus that has ever been
made�

Obviously this guy has a short memory. When boris buses start
spontainiously
bursting into flames then perhaps he might have a point.

Who wrote this - oh Mr Wolmar, a well known source of unbiased
commentary.
*cough*

--
Spud

Mr. Wolmar was recently on Venessa Feltz's phone-in programme on BBC
Radio
London. He made a fool of himself and came across as a gormless bigot.

For example, on the question of Council Housing (or whatever euphemism
they're using this month) he maintained that the only reason houses were
not
being built in large numbers in London was the hostility of Tory
controlled local
authorities. When Venessa Feltz pointed ou that local authorities not
controlled by the Tories were also not building houses he denied the
assertion. When she reminded him that many Council Leaders had told her

- and of course her "lovely listeners" - that the reason they were not
building
them was the "right-to-buy" legislation, he insisted that was not true!

He was similarly bigoted on the subject of cars. Anyone who votes for
such a
mindless muppet deserves all they get.

He's certainly very anti-car, so much so that he refuses to use them in his
endless campaign to become Labour mayoral candidate. It's completely
dominated his life for the last year, and it's made him more and more left
wing as he tries to appeal to local constituency activists.

I can't imagine what he has to offer them that the other candidates, all
experienced London MPs, can't, but failing to do so probably makes him
increasingly desperate and eccentric. It also means he has little time to
keep up with his former specialist subject, transport.

And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he
won't have a new railway book to promote.

On 21/07/2015 21:52, Recliner wrote:
[...]
And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he
won't have a new railway book to promote.


He might have a "I ran for the Mayoral nomination" book...

Mizter T wrote:
On 21/07/2015 21:52, Recliner wrote:
[...]
And, of course, next year, when he's no longer a would-be politician, he
won't have a new railway book to promote.


He might have a "I ran for the Mayoral nomination" book...

I think that's the book he writes next year, to sell in 2017.