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TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
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TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
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TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... In message , at 12:48:53 on Sat, 3 Oct 2015, D A Stocks remarked: Satnavs aren't always very good at trips to *places* rather than *addresses*. I remember many years ago getting into a cab in central London with a visitor from the USA and telling the driver the name of a small restaurant in Kensington. Where he whisked us with no additional prompting. The visitor was amazed! With Uber you confirm the pickup and drop off points on a map, and the search function is probably linked to Google so it will already know most places. That's no help if all I know is the name of a place, and can't locate it on a map. If in a strange City it can be very difficult to correlate random destinations with "points on a map". A bit of digging on the web suggests Uber may tend to use Apple rather than Google for their mapping. As a user of licensed taxis and Uber in a number of places it's fairly clear to me that a lot of the arguments against Uber in London on this thread are a bit like candle and oil lamp makers complaining about electric light. I think that in London (and maybe the UK in general) the regulations for the industry as a whole need to be brought up to date, rather than trying to put in specific rules in an attempt to restrict a newcomer to the market, especially one that is using a new business model with new technology. I have just done a little bit of research on Uber in Dublin, where I am working during the week at the moment and travel everywhere by taxi. It would appear Uber may be finding it harder to get established in the market there simply becasue their standard service doesn't offer much, if anything, that isn't already available from any other licensed taxi. AIUI the rules for the whole industry were re-written a few years ago and the result is that Uber is just another way to order and pay for a licensed taxi. -- DAS |
TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
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TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
In message , at 00:00:33 on Mon, 5 Oct
2015, D A Stocks remarked: With Uber you confirm the pickup and drop off points on a map, and the search function is probably linked to Google so it will already know most places. That's no help if all I know is the name of a place, and can't locate it on a map. If in a strange City it can be very difficult to correlate random destinations with "points on a map". A bit of digging on the web suggests Uber may tend to use Apple rather than Google for their mapping. Looking at my iPhone, where I live the maps are more up to date than Google's, but they have significantly fewer 'landmarks' plotted. It doesn't have the 'shared space' premises near the Oval that a charity I work with moved to a year ago (either under the name of the building nor the charity). That's somewhere I did have to look up on a map when they moved there from WC2. Of course, it might be in "The Knowledge" either. -- Roland Perry |
TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
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-septe mber.org, at 21:18:00 on Sun, 4 Oct 2015, Recliner remarked: I don't think they can. You can't pick a particular vehicle to book through Uber, can you? I thought you could (or the review thing would be a bit pointless). https://help.uber.com/h/65f52320-43a...4-e9b7c7c36dae If you are sat in the cab, the closest driver isn't very far away. I doubt that the location is logged quite that accurately. And there would be nothing to stop Uber's algorithms from randomly choosing from any of the drivers within, say, 200m if there's a cluster of them. Speculation. And if sing GPS it's quite likely they have your location (and that of the cab) within about 20m. -- Roland Perry |
TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
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-septe mber.org, at 21:18:00 on Sun, 4 Oct 2015, Recliner remarked: They can't get customers to book them on the spot: the booking has to be made through Uber. They can get the customer to book them through Uber, on the spot. I don't think they can. You can't pick a particular vehicle to book through Uber, can you? And Uber cars aren't marked. That doesn't matter if you are already sat in it, talking to the driver. How would you identify it as an Uber car? Because the driver will have accosted you as you walked along the pavement. Surely that's more likely to be how an unlicensed car would behave, rather than an Uber driver? The latter would be more likely to be automatically spotted if he behaves in that way, and has more to lose. Whichever is more likely, Uber drivers do it too. As a would-be passenger, why wouldn't you simply use the app to book a car, knowing that there are several in the vicinity? You'd do it before even coming out on to the street. Many people don't think that far ahead. Huh? That's exactly how Uber customers use it. The touts are picking up people who haven't. Do we actually know if there actually is some illegality going on? https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-an...ompliance-and- enforcement No comments? Clifford Chance reports some infractions in #3 of this piece (from a lobbying body, but they won't have made up the quotes): http://uk.businessinsider.com/ubers-...ifford-chance- fighting-to-ban-it-here-are-the-5-big-arguments-2015-10 Remind me again of who is paying Clifford Chance? Doesn't matter, they are top-10 firm who can't be found out making up quotes. So the things they say must be true. -- Roland Perry |
TfL Taxi Consultation to "kill" Uber
In message , at 22:45:13 on Sun, 4 Oct
2015, D A Stocks remarked: Or possibly do an off books "deal" with the customer. Unlikely. One of the USPs of Uber is that you don't hand over any money to amy driver by any method. They could be taking off their Uber-hat for that trip. -- Roland Perry |
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