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On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Basil Jet wrote:

Having people in non-wheelchair-accessible cars surrounding venues,
charging 20 or 30 pound minimum fares and threatening to behead any taxi
drivers

If that's common I'm sure you can point at the news reports of the
resulting criminal trials. The rozzers and the courts take death threats
quite seriously.

Please note that just one or two reports is insufficient. You are
implying that it is *common*. Therefore the trials should also be
common. Also I insist that they be reports *of trials* and not reports
of rumours and allegations.

--
David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

Irregular English:
you have anecdotes; they have data; I have proof

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On 07/10/2015 13:37, David Cantrell wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:57:20PM +0100, JNugent wrote:
On 06/10/2015 14:37, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:18:59PM +0100, JNugent wrote:
On 05/10/2015 16:02, y wrote:
JNugent wrote:
The word "cab" has a legal definition.
Is english your 2nd language? When 2 words are combined they generally no
longer mean the same as each original word. For example: a riverbus isn't a
red double decker that happens to float.
The word "cab" still has a legal definition, even if you wish it didn't.
So does "bus".
Does it?
What is it?

The definition isn't relevant, all that matters is that it exists and is
at odds with what a "data bus" is. And yet, despite that, data buses
continue to exist.

Well, the same applies to "cab" and "mini cab".

TfL - you know, the body responsible for licensing the things - agrees:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/taxis-and-minicabs/

If you really care, then look at the construction and use regulations.
But I don't recommend it, they're incredibly dull.

The leading case was one in which the words "taxi" and "cab", however
(mis)spelled and whether in use on their own or as part of another word,
were held to be protected under the London Cab Act(s).

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On 2015\10\07 07:40, wrote:

Whether it's done presumably depends on the presence of railway-owned land.
Did they do it at London termini in the days when taxi ranks were between
the platforms? Isn't it done at Heathrow?

At Liverpool Street there is still a taxi rank between platforms, and
there is not currently any charge to use it even though it does have a
security guard manning its barrier.

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On 2015\10\01 07:42, Someone Somewhere wrote:

So you wouldn't get into a car with anyone as anyone could be a mass
murderer, the fact they haven't been caught yet is pretty irrelevant
(as, if they were a mass murderer and had been caught surely they would
be behind bars?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-murders.html

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In message , at 12:33:41 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, y remarked:

Since anyone can become a black cab driver if they want to learn the
knowledge I really don't see the problem.

I'd be a bit disappointed if convicted sex offenders could.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 13:55:43 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, JNugent remarked:
And roaming data?

£2/day if you're an O2 user. It's getting more sensibly affordable.

That's only in Europe. Their standard rates outside Europe are £1/MB it
seems.

If you have unlimited data and unlimited calls within the UK on a Three
package,

Is that a contract, or a pay monthly/PAYG thing?

it also applies at the same rates (ie, inclusive) in the USA and loads
of other places.

That'll be the "Feel at Home" destinations, a whole 18 countries out of
200. And has all sorts of anomalies - covering France and Switzerland,
but not Belgium and the Netherlands, for example.
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Roland Perry

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On 07/10/2015 15:07, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 13:55:43 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, JNugent remarked:
And roaming data?

£2/day if you're an O2 user. It's getting more sensibly affordable.

That's only in Europe. Their standard rates outside Europe are £1/MB it
seems.

If you have unlimited data and unlimited calls within the UK on a
Three package,

Is that a contract, or a pay monthly/PAYG thing?

Both.

it also applies at the same rates (ie, inclusive) in the USA and loads
of other places.

That'll be the "Feel at Home" destinations, a whole 18 countries out of
200. And has all sorts of anomalies - covering France and Switzerland,
but not Belgium and the Netherlands, for example.

Gift horses, mouths, etc.

The USA is a useful place for it to work, wouldn't you say?

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On 07/10/2015 14:53, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:33:41 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, y remarked:

Since anyone can become a black cab driver if they want to learn the
knowledge I really don't see the problem.

I'd be a bit disappointed if convicted sex offenders could.

They can't.

At least, not in London.

Maybe - just - if the conviction was 40 years ago.

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In message , at 15:23:34 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, JNugent remarked:

Since anyone can become a black cab driver if they want to learn the
knowledge I really don't see the problem.

I'd be a bit disappointed if convicted sex offenders could.

They can't.

At least, not in London.

Maybe - just - if the conviction was 40 years ago.

So not "anyone" then. Glad we got that clarified.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 15:21:40 on Wed, 7 Oct
2015, JNugent remarked:

it also applies at the same rates (ie, inclusive) in the USA and loads
of other places.

That'll be the "Feel at Home" destinations, a whole 18 countries out of
200. And has all sorts of anomalies - covering France and Switzerland,
but not Belgium and the Netherlands, for example.

Gift horses, mouths, etc.

The USA is a useful place for it to work, wouldn't you say?

Only if one goes there often enough. I used to spend much more time in
Netherlands and Belgium than the USA. Although Switzerland was probably
3rd and France 4th.
--
Roland Perry