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Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
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I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote:
Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
In message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:56:35 in
uk.transport.london, " writes On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. The single fare finder says "To ensure you are charged the appropriate fare you must touch on the pink card reader if interchanging at Canada Water". No mention on CLJ. This selects 2.70/2.10 in place of 5.40/4.20. I found Single Fare Finder on an Android 'phone with: start at https://tfl.gov.uk, Menu/Fares & payments/Single fare finder. -- Walter Briscoe |
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Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
You should touch every pink Oyster reader that you encounter during your journey. It will either have no effect on the fare that you pay, or it will reduce your dare, it will never cause you to pay a higher fare.
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Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
On 09/10/2015 14:16, wrote: In article , () wrote: On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. Assuming the OP changes from Overground to Jubilee at Canada Water then definitely touch any passing pink readers. You need to touch to show you haven't used a route via Zone 1 if the normal route goes that way. You only need to touch the pink readers shown on the single fare finder to benefit from the lower non-z1 fare. Touching on any others won't do any harm, but it doesn't have any effect either. In other words, no need to "definitely touch any passing pink readers". And yes, the reality matches what I've just said! |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
On 09/10/2015 12:34, Walter Briscoe wrote: In message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:56:35 in uk.transport.london, " writes On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. The single fare finder says "To ensure you are charged the appropriate fare you must touch on the pink card reader if interchanging at Canada Water". No mention on CLJ. This selects 2.70/2.10 in place of 5.40/4.20. Yep there's no need to use the one at Clapham Junction, though nothing bad will happen if one does (it'll have no effect at all). I found Single Fare Finder on an Android 'phone with: start at https://tfl.gov.uk, Menu/Fares & payments/Single fare finder. The URL is: https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...le-fare-finder The TfL site is built on the responsive web design basis, so (the theory is) you'll be served a page appropriate to your device whether that be mobile or 'full screen' (laptop/desktop). |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:07:15 -0700 (PDT), Steve Lewis wrote: You should touch every pink Oyster reader that you encounter during your journey. It will either have no effect on the fare that you pay, or it will reduce your dare, it will never cause you to pay a higher fare. Wrong. You should only touch the ones specified by TfL in the Single Fare Finder. Really? Then that is, with the best will in the world, a completely ****ed up system. And worse, one which TfL have not communicated to the public. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who travels on a TfL service involving a change of train is expected to go online first to find out where they should or should not touch the reader? |
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In article , (Mizter T) wrote:
On 09/10/2015 14:16, wrote: In article , () wrote: On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. Assuming the OP changes from Overground to Jubilee at Canada Water then definitely touch any passing pink readers. You need to touch to show you haven't used a route via Zone 1 if the normal route goes that way. You only need to touch the pink readers shown on the single fare finder to benefit from the lower non-z1 fare. Touching on any others won't do any harm, but it doesn't have any effect either. In other words, no need to "definitely touch any passing pink readers". And yes, the reality matches what I've just said! The trouble is that most people haven't looked at the Single Fare Finder before travelling. So the advice to touch every pink reader is a belts and braces approach which can't go wrong. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:09:29 +0200, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. Why? What harm would additional pink touches do? https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...From=Worcester +Park+Rail+Station&FromId=910GWRCSTRP&To=Canary+Wh arf+Underground+Station&ToI d=940GZZLUCYF&PassengerType=Adult In this case that is "in" at Worcester Park, "pink" at Canada Water and "out" at Canary Wharf LU station. The pink validators are at Overground platform level near the escalators down to the Jubilee Line. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
In message of Fri, 9 Oct
2015 18:42:16 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield writes On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:09:29 +0200, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...inder?From=Wor cester+Park+Rail+Station&FromId=910GWRCSTRP&To=Ca nary+Wharf+Underground +Station&ToId=940GZZLUCYF&PassengerType=Adult In this case that is "in" at Worcester Park, "pink" at Canada Water and "out" at Canary Wharf LU station. The pink validators are at Overground platform level near the escalators down to the Jubilee Line. Helpful as ever, Paul! I could not remember the location of the Canada Water pink validators. One unhelpful thing, is that pink validator touches do not show on Passenger Operated Machines. They do appear in online statements. Colin Rosentiel was misinformed, when told printed statements can be produced by POMs - even with staff intervention, unless the staff in King's Cross are misinformed or undertrained. I am puzzled as to why a pink validator touch is needed to select a cheap fare between Worcester Park and Canary Wharf. The obvious route via Waterloo NR and Waterloo LU would involve a touch out and touch in and would incur a via zone 1 fare - if gates are operational. Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? -- Walter Briscoe |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
"Walter Briscoe" wrote in message ... In message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 18:42:16 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield writes On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:09:29 +0200, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...inder?From=Wor cester+Park+Rail+Station&FromId=910GWRCSTRP&To=C anary+Wharf+Underground +Station&ToId=940GZZLUCYF&PassengerType=Adult In this case that is "in" at Worcester Park, "pink" at Canada Water and "out" at Canary Wharf LU station. The pink validators are at Overground platform level near the escalators down to the Jubilee Line. Helpful as ever, Paul! I could not remember the location of the Canada Water pink validators. One unhelpful thing, is that pink validator touches do not show on Passenger Operated Machines. They do appear in online statements. Colin Rosentiel was misinformed, when told printed statements can be produced by POMs - even with staff intervention, unless the staff in King's Cross are misinformed or undertrained. I am puzzled as to why a pink validator touch is needed to select a cheap fare between Worcester Park and Canary Wharf. The obvious route via Waterloo NR and Waterloo LU would involve a touch out and touch in and would incur a via zone 1 fare - if gates are operational. Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? you answered it yourself: "if gates are operational", There's an awful lot of automatic correction of incorrect fare calculations for when they are not and the system assumes this is always a possibility. tim |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
wrote in message ... In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 09/10/2015 14:16, wrote: In article , () wrote: On 09.10.15 9:09, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. I would. Assuming the OP changes from Overground to Jubilee at Canada Water then definitely touch any passing pink readers. You need to touch to show you haven't used a route via Zone 1 if the normal route goes that way. You only need to touch the pink readers shown on the single fare finder to benefit from the lower non-z1 fare. Touching on any others won't do any harm, but it doesn't have any effect either. In other words, no need to "definitely touch any passing pink readers". And yes, the reality matches what I've just said! The trouble is that most people haven't looked at the Single Fare Finder before travelling. So the advice to touch every pink reader is a belts and braces approach which can't go wrong. except that the average punter is not going to know where all of the pink valuators are, and could easily not touch one because he didn't see it. tim -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Clapham Junction Pink Oyster Reader
On 09/10/2015 18:38, Paul Corfield wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:07:15 -0700 (PDT), Steve Lewis wrote: You should touch every pink Oyster reader that you encounter during your journey. It will either have no effect on the fare that you pay, or it will reduce your dare, it will never cause you to pay a higher fare. Wrong. You should only touch the ones specified by TfL in the Single Fare Finder. I am aware of an instance where people touched every pink validator on their route and one was ignored and the people were charged as if travelling via Zone 1. Dare I suggest that in that instance the touch on the relevant pink validator didn't register (i.e. they didn't get a green light)? |
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"Walter Briscoe" wrote in message
... Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? -- Walter Briscoe You can transfer between NR/OG and the Underground at a number of points without going through gates, and Farringdon is a rare case where that can happen inside zone 1. A lot of other lines pass through zone 1 so any journey through the zone and out the other side is a possibility. -- DAS |
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(Walter Briscoe) wrote: In message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 18:42:16 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield writes On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:09:29 +0200, Kerry Hawkins wrote: Hello I want to travel to Canary Warf from Worcester Park using the London Overground from Clapham Junction. I will touch in at Worcester Park but do I have to touch the pink reader at Clapham Junction before I get on the Overground...? Thanks for your help. Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...?From=Worceste r+Park+Rail+Station&FromId=910GWRCSTRP&To=Canary+W harf+Underground+Station&To Id=940GZZLUCYF&PassengerType=Adult In this case that is "in" at Worcester Park, "pink" at Canada Water and "out" at Canary Wharf LU station. The pink validators are at Overground platform level near the escalators down to the Jubilee Line. Helpful as ever, Paul! I could not remember the location of the Canada Water pink validators. One unhelpful thing, is that pink validator touches do not show on Passenger Operated Machines. They do appear in online statements. Colin Rosentiel was misinformed, when told printed statements can be produced by POMs - even with staff intervention, unless the staff in King's Cross are misinformed or undertrained. I wasn't told that by station staff but in an email from TfL Customer Services when I asked how I was going to obtain such vital data without ticket offices. I was given considerable detail, including which stations would be the first to get the necessary new machines back in April: 15 April 2015 Dear Mr Rosenstiel Thank you for your email dated 17 March regarding the ticket machines to be operated by staff at our stations when the ticket offices close. These ticket machines will be able to carry out these functions. They are currently being installed at stations and the first ones will be available within the next two months. The first stations to receive the machines will be Chigwell, Embankment, Roding Valley, Shepherd's Bush, South Wimbledon, Temple, Theydon Bois and Upminster Bridge. They should be available at all stations by December this year. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On 10/10/2015 14:22, D A Stocks wrote: "Walter Briscoe" wrote: Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? You can transfer between NR/OG and the Underground at a number of points without going through gates, and Farringdon is a rare case where that can happen inside zone 1. A lot of other lines pass through zone 1 so any journey through the zone and out the other side is a possibility. Farringdon (for Thameslink), Moorgate and Old Street (for Great Northern) are the only three examples I can think of now in z1. |
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wrote: In message , at 10:53:27 on Sat, 10 Oct 2015, remarked: Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? You can transfer between NR/OG and the Underground at a number of points without going through gates, and Farringdon is a rare case where that can happen inside zone 1. A lot of other lines pass through zone 1 so any journey through the zone and out the other side is a possibility. Farringdon (for Thameslink), Moorgate and Old Street (for Great Northern) are the only three examples I can think of now in z1. Although the Waterloo & City at Waterloo has no barriers can you get to any other platforms there without passing through barriers now? Yes, you can do the mid-platform exits at Waterloo to the transverse corridor, from which the Waterloo & City doesn't have barriers, nor are there any between W&C at Bank and the DLR. Or even at most DLR exits. I'm not sure that's so any more. When did you last go that way? I did on my way back from Bournemouth recently. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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(Paul Corfield) wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:20:55 -0500, wrote: In article , (Paul Corfield) wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:46:40 +0100, Walter Briscoe wrote: I am puzzled as to why a pink validator touch is needed to select a cheap fare between Worcester Park and Canary Wharf. The obvious route via Waterloo NR and Waterloo LU would involve a touch out and touch in and would incur a via zone 1 fare - if gates are operational. Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? Via Clapham Junction and change at West Brompton - no gates on the interchange. Long way round for a short cut but possible nonetheless. Change to Jubilee Line at Westminster. They aren't inside Zone 1 though. Oh come on Colin - the route is through Zone 1 and involves a change there. Walter said "via zone 1" not "you must go through gatelines in Zone 1 which you can confidently predict will not be working so you can dodge your fare". I think Walter's confidence is misjudged. I've never seen barriers not working at Waterloo or Vauxhall for a start. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In message of Sat, 10 Oct
2015 20:07:38 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield writes On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:46:40 +0100, Walter Briscoe wrote: I am puzzled as to why a pink validator touch is needed to select a cheap fare between Worcester Park and Canary Wharf. The obvious route via Waterloo NR and Waterloo LU would involve a touch out and touch in and would incur a via zone 1 fare - if gates are operational. Can anybody suggest a via zone 1 journey, which would not involve gates? Via Clapham Junction and change at West Brompton - no gates on the interchange. Long way round for a short cut but possible nonetheless. Change to Jubilee Line at Westminster. Thanks, again, Paul. That is just what I was looking for. -- Walter Briscoe |
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On 09/10/2015 18:42, Paul Corfield wrote:
Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...ngerType=Adult Thanks for telling us about the mobile version of the single fare finder. SO I've just tried it on a sample journey and I'm not impressed. My sample journey was one I actually do from time to time: King's Cross St Pancras to Richmond (Surrey). It tells me the three options a Oyster peak £3.90 off-peak £2-80 (But no route is specified, does that mean using London Underground all the way? I've no idea. And does "Oyster" imply London Underground only, that implication is not spelled out, and does not seem very logical now that Oyster cards are valid on a much greater variety of trains). Changing at Waterloo or Victoria and Clapham Junction: Peak £5.40, off-peak £4.20 Changing at Vauxhall Peak £5.00 off-peak £4.20 So if my assumptions are right it costs more to mix NR and TfL trains, but why are the two off-peak fares the same but peak fares different? Baffling. Then the route I might well take is Thameslink to West Hampstead and then West Hampstead Overground to Richmond. That route isn't likely to take any longer than using the District Line to Richmond but it isn't listed at all, so I have no idea what fare would be charged. Not only that I don't know how to find out. -- Clive Page |
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In article , (Clive Page)
wrote: On 09/10/2015 18:42, Paul Corfield wrote: Please check your journey in the TfL Single Fare Finder. That specifies the default route - first one on the list and usually via Zone 1 - and then will list alternatives. You must ONLY touch your Oyster Card / Contactless Card at the points specified by TfL to benefit from a lower fare. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...From=Worcester +Park+Rail+Station&FromId=910GWRCSTRP&To=Canary+Wh arf+Underground+Station&ToI d=940GZZLUCYF&PassengerType=Adult Thanks for telling us about the mobile version of the single fare finder. SO I've just tried it on a sample journey and I'm not impressed. My sample journey was one I actually do from time to time: King's Cross St Pancras to Richmond (Surrey). It tells me the three options a Oyster peak £3.90 off-peak £2-80 (But no route is specified, does that mean using London Underground all the way? I've no idea. And does "Oyster" imply London Underground only, that implication is not spelled out, and does not seem very logical now that Oyster cards are valid on a much greater variety of trains). Oyster is valid all over Greater London. I guess that allows use of the most direct route which will be on the Underground and/or Overground. Changing at Waterloo or Victoria and Clapham Junction: Peak £5.40, off-peak £4.20 Changing at Vauxhall Peak £5.00 off-peak £4.20 So if my assumptions are right it costs more to mix NR and TfL trains, but why are the two off-peak fares the same but peak fares different? Baffling. That's the way the TOCs were persuaded to accept Oyster. It makes train travel more expensive Sarf of the River. Then the route I might well take is Thameslink to West Hampstead and then West Hampstead Overground to Richmond. That route isn't likely to take any longer than using the District Line to Richmond but it isn't listed at all, so I have no idea what fare would be charged. Not only that I don't know how to find out. It wouldn't be because you're starting in Zone 1. So there can't be a fare avoiding Zone 1. You could try combining Kings Cross to West Hampstead and West Hampstead to Richmond but you will have difficulty persuading the Oyster system not to continue your journey from King's Cross when you re-enter at West Hampstead. Maybe use 2 different cards though if you have a railcard registered on Oyster that won't work as you can only register 1 card AIUI. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Considering that the OP was requesting a single one-word answer - YES - I am amazed that this thread has spread to 40 posts by 15 different people.
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On 11/10/2015 13:12, wrote:
In article , (Clive Page) Then the route I might well take is Thameslink to West Hampstead and then West Hampstead Overground to Richmond. That route isn't likely to take any longer than using the District Line to Richmond but it isn't listed at all, so I have no idea what fare would be charged. Not only that I don't know how to find out. It wouldn't be because you're starting in Zone 1. So there can't be a fare avoiding Zone 1. You could try combining Kings Cross to West Hampstead and West Hampstead to Richmond but you will have difficulty persuading the Oyster system not to continue your journey from King's Cross when you re-enter at West Hampstead. Maybe use 2 different cards though if you have a railcard registered on Oyster that won't work as you can only register 1 card AIUI. Sorry I don't follow you at all. I wasn't trying to get a fare avoiding zone 1 obviously, as KX/St.P is in zone 1. But I would like a way of finding what I would be charged if I use that route, which seems to me to be quite s reasonable onr. I'm sure it can be done on an Oyster card as a single trip, as the connection between West Hampstead Thameslink to West Hampstead Overground is one generally accepted by routeing and fare engines. -- Clive Page |
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Clive Page wrote:
My sample journey was one I actually do from time to time: King's Cross St Pancras to Richmond (Surrey). It tells me the three options a Oyster peak £3.90 off-peak £2-80 (But no route is specified, does that mean using London Underground all the way? I've no idea. And does "Oyster" imply London Underground only, that implication is not spelled out, and does not seem very logical now that Oyster cards are valid on a much greater variety of trains). That is the default fare, which will be charged for any route you choose to take that is not specifically listed as an exception. So as long as you do not pass through the gatelines at Waterloo, Victoria or Vauxhall you will be charged that fare. Changing at Waterloo or Victoria and Clapham Junction: Peak £5.40, off-peak £4.20 Changing at Vauxhall Peak £5.00 off-peak £4.20 So if my assumptions are right it costs more to mix NR and TfL trains, but why are the two off-peak fares the same but peak fares different? Baffling. Then the route I might well take is Thameslink to West Hampstead and then West Hampstead Overground to Richmond. That route isn't likely to take any longer than using the District Line to Richmond but it isn't listed at all, so I have no idea what fare would be charged. Not only that I don't know how to find out. That would be charged at 3.90/2.80 as well. Peter Smyth |
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On 10/10/2015 17:27, Roland Perry wrote: [...] Farringdon (for Thameslink), Moorgate and Old Street (for Great Northern) are the only three examples I can think of now in z1. Although the Waterloo & City at Waterloo has no barriers can you get to any other platforms there without passing through barriers now? Yes, you can do the mid-platform exits at Waterloo to the transverse corridor, from which the Waterloo & City doesn't have barriers, nor are there any between W&C at Bank and the DLR. Or even at most DLR exits. The mid-platform entrances/exits for Waterloo mainline/NR were gated a few years ago. My comment was regarding NR to LU (or v.v.) interchanges in zone 1. Though I'm sure the DLR into Bank is a source of a certain number of free riders on the Tube, likewise the GN / Northern City into Old Street and Moorgate. |
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In article , (Clive Page)
wrote: On 11/10/2015 13:12, wrote: In article , (Clive Page) Then the route I might well take is Thameslink to West Hampstead and then West Hampstead Overground to Richmond. That route isn't likely to take any longer than using the District Line to Richmond but it isn't listed at all, so I have no idea what fare would be charged. Not only that I don't know how to find out. It wouldn't be because you're starting in Zone 1. So there can't be a fare avoiding Zone 1. You could try combining Kings Cross to West Hampstead and West Hampstead to Richmond but you will have difficulty persuading the Oyster system not to continue your journey from King's Cross when you re-enter at West Hampstead. Maybe use 2 different cards though if you have a railcard registered on Oyster that won't work as you can only register 1 card AIUI. Sorry I don't follow you at all. I wasn't trying to get a fare avoiding zone 1 obviously, as KX/St.P is in zone 1. But I would like a way of finding what I would be charged if I use that route, which seems to me to be quite s reasonable onr. I'm sure it can be done on an Oyster card as a single trip, as the connection between West Hampstead Thameslink to West Hampstead Overground is one generally accepted by routeing and fare engines. I think that is a valid route for the one fare given. Richmond is in Zone 4. That route doesn't go further out than Zone 4. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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tim..... wrote:
The trouble is that most people haven't looked at the Single Fare Finder before travelling. So the advice to touch every pink reader is a belts and braces approach which can't go wrong. except that the average punter is not going to know where all of the pink valuators are, and could easily not touch one because he didn't see it. Which is actually a serious problem at Clapham Junction where there appear to be pink readers by one set of steps for coming down from the bridge but not the other. I'm not sure what the situation is for the steps up from the tunnel. Is this a vain attempt to have the reader try to only cover one platform or is this just bad placing? -- My blog: http://adf.ly/4hi4c |
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