In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was
his title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak
Common via the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I
presume he was talking about more than the one return journey the line
gets now.

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:31:51 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.
Why Paddington? Once OOC is up and running as a Crossrail station it
makes perfect sense for Chiltern to target it.

On 2015\11\11 22:56, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:31:51 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.

Why Paddington? Once OOC is up and running as a Crossrail station it
makes perfect sense for Chiltern to target it.

Crossrail's just a glorified tube line. No-one would ever say Chiltern
should terminate a load of trains at Sudbury Hill Harrow to target the
Piccadilly Line. Old Oak Common will not offer noticeably more than West
Hampstead, whose Jubilee Line and North London Line and Thameslink
trains to Gatwick and Luton are not worth slowing down for.

In a recent thread about this route, it was accepted that
Paddington does not have enough spare capacity to receive
Chiltern trains.

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\11\11 22:56, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:31:51 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.

Why Paddington? Once OOC is up and running as a Crossrail station it
makes perfect sense for Chiltern to target it.

Crossrail's just a glorified tube line. No-one would ever say Chiltern
should terminate a load of trains at Sudbury Hill Harrow to target the
Piccadilly Line. Old Oak Common will not offer noticeably more than West
Hampstead, whose Jubilee Line and North London Line and Thameslink
trains to Gatwick and Luton are not worth slowing down for.

Connecting to Crossrail will provide many more useful connections than are
available from Marylebone (or West Hampstead), including Heathrow, the West
End, City and Canary Wharf.

Robin9 wrote:

NY;151690 Wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...-

In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was
his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common
via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he
was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.-

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all
Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will
go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was
for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.

In a recent thread about this route, it was accepted that
Paddington does not have enough spare capacity to receive
Chiltern trains.

I think the conclusion was that the limitation was on capacity on the lines
into Paddington, rather than the station itself. Crossrail will move quite
a few current GWR services from the surface station to the basement,
leaving the higher numbered platforms little used.

Old Oak Common is set to become a destination in its own right, just like Stratford.

Steve Lewis wrote:
Old Oak Common is set to become a destination in its own right, just like Stratford.


Yes, that's certainly true, though I'm not sure how soon. Presumably the
new buildings will be constructed after HS2 gets there?

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:35:43 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\11\11 22:56, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:31:51 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

In the latest RAIL, the Business Development Manager (I think that was his
title) of Chiltern says that he wants to run trains to Old Oak Common via
the Park Royal line, which he said would need upgrading. I presume he was
talking about more than the one return journey the line gets now.

And I presume he intends running trains ultimately to Paddington, not
terminating them at OOC :-)

I wonder if his intention will be eventually to run all Birmingham/Wycombe
trains to Paddington rather than Marylebone, or whether some trains will go
to Paddington and some/most to Marylebone.

When Marylebone was under threat of closure in the 1980s, the plane was for
all Wycombe trains to use the Park Royal line.

Why Paddington? Once OOC is up and running as a Crossrail station it
makes perfect sense for Chiltern to target it.

Crossrail's just a glorified tube line. No-one would ever say Chiltern
should terminate a load of trains at Sudbury Hill Harrow to target the
Piccadilly Line. Old Oak Common will not offer noticeably more than West
Hampstead, whose Jubilee Line and North London Line and Thameslink
trains to Gatwick and Luton are not worth slowing down for.

Connecting to Crossrail will provide many more useful connections than are
available from Marylebone (or West Hampstead),

not a lot more

including Heathrow,

One change from West Hampstead

the West End,

direct from West Hampstead

City

direct from West Hampstead

and Canary Wharf.

direct from West Hampstead.