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Basil Jet[_4_] November 14th 15 12:39 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4

Recliner[_3_] November 14th 15 12:56 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator
 
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Thanks, I had already planned to go and have a look at it next week. It's
been ages in construction.

Only a very few years ago, Greenford was a station with semaphore signals
and a wooden panelled escalator. Now they've both gone, but it's still one
of the very few stations with cross-platform interchange between DMUs and
automatic Tube trains.


Chris J Dixon November 14th 15 08:03 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator
 
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?

Chris
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Recliner[_3_] November 14th 15 08:09 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator
 
Chris J Dixon wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift. I assume it has
a counterbalance like a normal lift? I'll see if I can tell when I go to
see it on Monday. Of course, the balance weight may be hidden, as it is
with many normal lifts.


e27002 aurora November 14th 15 08:16 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator
 
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:03:03 +0000, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


It is a funicular railway, no?

Offramp November 14th 15 08:20 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator
 
On Saturday, 14 November 2015 01:39:32 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Why is it not called a funicular?

Clive D. W. Feather[_2_] November 14th 15 08:36 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last wooden escalator
 
In message
-sept
ember.org, Recliner wrote:
I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


That assumes 100% efficiency in the mechanism. Not a safe assumption.

Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift.


In addition, the fact it's sliding down rails rather than hanging in
free space may alter the efficiency of the mechanism.

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Recliner[_3_] November 14th 15 08:40 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator
 
Offramp wrote:
On Saturday, 14 November 2015 01:39:32 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


Why is it not called a funicular?


Good question. Maybe because it's indoors? I assume it also doesn't run on
railway-style tracks.


Graeme Wall November 14th 15 09:13 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the last woodenescalator
 
On 14/11/2015 09:03, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxScXvX1Dv4


I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


More efficient and I suspect the actual lift body weighs less than a
wooden escalator.


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This account not read, substitute trains for rail.


Recliner[_3_] November 14th 15 09:18 AM

Inclined lift at Greenford Station replaces the lastwooden escalator
 
Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In message
-sept
ember.org, Recliner wrote:
I'm a little surprised that they claim it uses less power than a
conventional lift. If you have to raise a given mass through a
given vertical distance, shouldn't the answer be the same?


That assumes 100% efficiency in the mechanism. Not a safe assumption.

Yes, I agree about the *energy* consumption. But perhaps it gets away with
a less powerful motor, as it's slower than a normal lift.


In addition, the fact it's sliding down rails rather than hanging in
free space may alter the efficiency of the mechanism.


I assume it runs on rollers or guide wheels, rather than sliding. It's at
quite a shallow angle.
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