I took the ELL from Highbury this morning for the first time in about 6 months.
Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave it was still
only a 3rd full in the middle of the morning rush hour. Compared to last time
I used it this is virtually empty. I can only assume the poor service
frequency and slow journey times (25 mins to do the 4 miles to canada water
this morning) have put people off as they did me. What a waste of an asset.

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Spud

On 2015-11-18 09:36:14 +0000, d said:

Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave

They always start counting down from 7 mins when they see you coming.

E.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:48:06 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2015-11-18 09:36:14 +0000, d said:

Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave

They always start counting down from 7 mins when they see you coming.

I was being kind. 7 minutes is the official gap. When I got it regularly it
was often somewhat longer.

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Spud

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

I took the ELL from Highbury this morning for the first time in about 6 months.
Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave it was still
only a 3rd full in the middle of the morning rush hour. Compared to last time
I used it this is virtually empty. I can only assume the poor service
frequency and slow journey times (25 mins to do the 4 miles to canada water
this morning) have put people off as they did me. What a waste of an asset.

This is sad to hear. The Overground has such great potential. But,
the speed on its routes are excruciatingly slow. Surely all that
investment should allow for a more sprightly system.

Last Weekend we took a train from London Bridge to the South Coast. I
was surprised to see the stations between New Cross Gate and Norwood
Junction appear to be under Overground management. One had assumed,
wrongly, that the Overground has been serving New Southern Railway
managed stations.

On 2015-11-18 13:24:44 +0000, d said:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:48:06 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2015-11-18 09:36:14 +0000, d said:

Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave

They always start counting down from 7 mins when they see you coming.

I was being kind. 7 minutes is the official gap. When I got it regularly it
was often somewhat longer.

The ELL interval from Highbury is 7/8 minutes and it runs to a timetable.

As for passenger numbers, there's no pleasing you as you're moaning
about getting on an uncrowded train. They do get very crowded though -
passenger numbers for the whole Overground have nearly tripled since
2010.

E.

On 2015-11-18 18:48:13 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

I took the ELL from Highbury this morning for the first time in about 6 months.
Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave it was still
only a 3rd full in the middle of the morning rush hour. Compared to last time
I used it this is virtually empty. I can only assume the poor service
frequency and slow journey times (25 mins to do the 4 miles to canada water
this morning) have put people off as they did me. What a waste of an asset.

This is sad to hear. The Overground has such great potential. But,
the speed on its routes are excruciatingly slow. Surely all that
investment should allow for a more sprightly system.

They can seem slow especially between stations close together but they
are main line not underground trains.

On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 09:36:16 UTC, wrote:
I took the ELL from Highbury this morning for the first time in about 6 months.
Even after the obligatory 7 minute wait for the train to leave it was still
only a 3rd full in the middle of the morning rush hour. Compared to last time
I used it this is virtually empty. I can only assume the poor service
frequency and slow journey times (25 mins to do the 4 miles to canada water
this morning) have put people off as they did me. What a waste of an asset.

On 2015\11\18 21:32, wrote:

I don't know why, but I tend to go out via Canada Water and the Jubilee, and return all the way by Overground.

Can you try and work out why... it might be important. And exactly which
journey are you describing?

Spritely.

On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 22:44:47 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\11\18 21:32, wrote:

I don't know why, but I tend to go out via Canada Water and the Jubilee, and return all the way by Overground.

Can you try and work out why... it might be important. And exactly which
journey are you describing?

60 or 405 Bus from Coulsdon to West Croydon, Overground to Canada Water, Jubilee Line to Stratford. Return from Stratford to West Croydon Overground all the way, changing at Canonbury and Dalston Kingsland. Bus from Croydon to Coulsdon.

Sometimes do other things, Croydon to Stratford by 75 and 108 bus for example, but that's even slower.

I can think of other journeys where I tend to go out and return by different routes, but for no obvious reason.