In message , at 16:05:22 on Thu, 26 Nov
2015, d remarked:
Its a mystery to me why they didn't route a branch of the tram line through
it.
They head straight for it then veer off at the last moment. The tunnels
northern
portal is at the victoria centre where they could have had a stop and then
headed off up the A60.

On one hand that route misses out the main square, Nottingham Trent
University etc; on the other hand they'd have ended up with a tramline
bisecting two underground car parks and quite probably a lot of
expensive tunnel repairs to do.

So the tunnels have been compromised? I assumed they were still intact.

Victoria Station was on top of the hill, in a deep cutting with a tunnel
mouth at either end. As far as I know the tunnels in both directions are
intact. The massive shopping centre car park is built from track level
upwards, and the shops themselves are at ground and first flooe level
beneath the flats and the grey-roofed 'shed'. The northern part of the
cutting has a separate car park with an adjacent bus station at ground
level.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/nottingham-victoria.jpg

You can see the cutting best between A (the northern portal) and D
(where a fraction of the old grey-brick retaining wall is viable.

The southern portal is at C, and has a small building on the much
smaller cutting.
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:27:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:


*guffaw*

They always crawl out the woodwork don't they - the ones who have zero to add
to any debate but pick up on the tiniest typo and think they've come up with
some stunningly original yet subtle putdown.

I guess we'll hear from you again in another year or 2 when someone mentions
grammar again when you'll cut and paste the same response?


In fact, I have a web page I wrote about 15 years ago about correct use of the
apostrophe.

Is it extant? Can we have a URL please?

It isn't meant as an unnecessary put-down (unlike your post full
of personal insults). If I read a sentence and it has incorrect apostrophe usage,
it immediately grates and distracts my attention from whatever point was being
made. It's deeply ironic that someone making an off-topic post about grammar,
and making sweeping statements about whole sections of society who live in
certain types of housing development, should not even check his post for errors
before sending it, and then criticise anyone who picks up on it for being
off-topic and contributing nothing. A pot calling two different kettles black.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:45:59 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 16:05:22 on Thu, 26 Nov
2015, d remarked:
Its a mystery to me why they didn't route a branch of the tram line through
it.
They head straight for it then veer off at the last moment. The tunnels
northern
portal is at the victoria centre where they could have had a stop and then
headed off up the A60.

On one hand that route misses out the main square, Nottingham Trent
University etc; on the other hand they'd have ended up with a tramline
bisecting two underground car parks and quite probably a lot of
expensive tunnel repairs to do.

So the tunnels have been compromised? I assumed they were still intact.

Victoria Station was on top of the hill, in a deep cutting with a tunnel
mouth at either end. As far as I know the tunnels in both directions are
intact. The massive shopping centre car park is built from track level
upwards, and the shops themselves are at ground and first flooe level
beneath the flats and the grey-roofed 'shed'. The northern part of the
cutting has a separate car park with an adjacent bus station at ground
level.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/nottingham-victoria.jpg

You can see the cutting best between A (the northern portal) and D
(where a fraction of the old grey-brick retaining wall is viable.

The southern portal is at C, and has a small building on the much
smaller cutting.

And, right at the center of the view is the only remaining part of
Nottingham Victoria Station, the clock tower.

In message , at 09:06:26 on
Fri, 27 Nov 2015, e27002 aurora remarked:

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/nottingham-victoria.jpg

You can see the cutting best between A (the northern portal) and D
(where a fraction of the old grey-brick retaining wall is viable.

The southern portal is at C, and has a small building on the much
smaller cutting.

And, right at the center of the view is the only remaining part of
Nottingham Victoria Station, the clock tower.

And the station hotel.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:09:41 +0000, Sam Wilson
wrote:

In article ,
Guy Gorton wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 18:03:11 +0000, e27002 aurora
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:24:25 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at
08:44:47 on Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Railsigns.uk
remarked:
There can't be many people who feel inclined to comment on the
excellence or otherwise of a hotel room's plumbing

Or its supply of hot water. I've only stayed at two hotels (out of
several hundreds) which ran out of hot water.

The first was in Maidenhead in around 1980 and had suffered a one-off
major outage of some kind. The other was Sharm-el-Sheikh in 2009 where
no-one appeared to be that surprised that the system had broken down yet
again.

Given how well travelled you are, Roland, one is surprised you have
not noticed the quality of the mains pressure water systems found in
those United States. One of the things that attracted me to my unit
here on the south coast was the absence of the usual low pressure UK
plumbing. My shower here works as well as my shower in Tucson. That
is hardly the norm for the UK.

It is attractive until the day the mains water system ceases to flow
into the premises for whatever reason - planned/unplanned.
My late sister-in-law's house was mains-only and it was not a happy
solution - add being coupled to a combi boiler and the water system
was useless.

A family member who works in the renewables sector laments the vogue for
combi boilers. A hot water tank provides a useful way of decoupling
supply and demand when energy sources are intermittent.


My limited experience with combi boilers is that they are far from
reliable.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:45:59 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
Victoria Station was on top of the hill, in a deep cutting with a tunnel
mouth at either end. As far as I know the tunnels in both directions are
intact. The massive shopping centre car park is built from track level
upwards, and the shops themselves are at ground and first flooe level
beneath the flats and the grey-roofed 'shed'. The northern part of the
cutting has a separate car park with an adjacent bus station at ground
level.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/nottingham-victoria.jpg

You can see the cutting best between A (the northern portal) and D
(where a fraction of the old grey-brick retaining wall is viable.

The southern portal is at C, and has a small building on the much
smaller cutting.

Thats a shame. Those tunnels would have been a useful link whether for tram
or road. Seems a bit idiotic to have destroyed them. Oh well.

--
Spud

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:06:26 +0000
e27002 aurora wrote:
And, right at the center of the view is the only remaining part of
Nottingham Victoria Station, the clock tower.

Didn't know that. I always thought it looked inconcruous but never really
considered what it actually was.

--
Spud

In message , at 09:45:57 on Fri, 27 Nov
2015, d remarked:
Victoria Station was on top of the hill, in a deep cutting with a tunnel
mouth at either end. As far as I know the tunnels in both directions are
intact. The massive shopping centre car park is built from track level
upwards, and the shops themselves are at ground and first flooe level
beneath the flats and the grey-roofed 'shed'. The northern part of the
cutting has a separate car park with an adjacent bus station at ground
level.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/nottingham-victoria.jpg

You can see the cutting best between A (the northern portal) and D
(where a fraction of the old grey-brick retaining wall is viable.

The southern portal is at C, and has a small building on the much
smaller cutting.

Thats a shame. Those tunnels would have been a useful link whether for tram
or road. Seems a bit idiotic to have destroyed them. Oh well.

Do keep up! The tunnels are still there. It's the cutting which has been
built upon.
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:27:23 +0000, Neil Williams
wrote:

On 2015-11-27 09:33:32 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

My limited experience with combi boilers is that they are far from
reliable.

I have experience with precisely one, and it has been as reliable as
one might expect a system boiler to be.

How many have you experienced, and how old? The technology doesn't
differ that much from a system boiler. It's just that if it fails
there is no hot water backup.


One, well I did say limited, :-). And, its age was, to me unknown.
Before I bought this condo, I rented an apartment here in town for two
years. It had a combi boiler, it heated the water for the radiators
and instantaneously heated the water for the shower and faucets. Twice
during my stay I called out the repairman because the hot water supply
failed.

Moreover, when the pilot light went out, relighting and restarting the
system was an art form, a torturous one.

Added two that, two homes that I have owned, one in the US and one in
the UK had instantaneous water heaters. Both worked well for the
first year. After that, we experienced problems.

A tank with heaters works best. My UK home has a modern tank with two
immersion heaters. My US home has a tank with a gas heater.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:59:56 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 11:27:23 on Fri, 27
Nov 2015, Neil Williams remarked:

My limited experience with combi boilers is that they are far from
reliable.

I have experience with precisely one, and it has been as reliable as
one might expect a system boiler to be.

How many have you experienced, and how old? The technology doesn't
differ that much from a system boiler. It's just that if it fails
there is no hot water backup.

I've had a few, and the main problem is they don't deliver hot water
fast enough to fill a bath in a sensible length of time. Let alone
filling up a bath at the same time someone else is having a shower.

Nothing to do with low pressure British plumbing then?