It turns out that the direct trains to Shoeburyness will all run from
Liverpool Street during the day on Sundays. Fenchurch Street will only
have the trains that serve Grays, either direct or via Chafford Hundred.
That seems surprising, that they would shift their main service out of
their main London terminus like that.

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

It turns out that the direct trains to Shoeburyness will all run from
Liverpool Street during the day on Sundays. Fenchurch Street will only
have the trains that serve Grays, either direct or via Chafford Hundred.
That seems surprising, that they would shift their main service out of
their main London terminus like that.

you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running to FS
on Sundays

tim

On Saturday, 5 December 2015 12:12:43 UTC, tim..... wrote:


you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running to FS
on Sundays

I like Fenchurch Street; I think it is very pretty and even mysterious. But I have lived in London my entire long life and used it only twice.

In message , at
04:19:40 on Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Offramp remarked:
you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running to FS
on Sundays

I like Fenchurch Street; I think it is very pretty and even mysterious. But
I have lived in London my entire long life and used it only twice.

I've travelled round London for over 50 years, and even lived for long
periods in Essex; but have *never* been to Fenchurch Street. I've done
Tower Gateway a couple of times, which almost counts.
--
Roland Perry

On 2015\12\05 12:12, tim..... wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

It turns out that the direct trains to Shoeburyness will all run from
Liverpool Street during the day on Sundays. Fenchurch Street will only
have the trains that serve Grays, either direct or via Chafford
Hundred. That seems surprising, that they would shift their main
service out of their main London terminus like that.

you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running to
FS on Sundays

Which makes it surprising that there has been no hint that Crossrail
trains might run via Barking, perhaps 2tph or 4tph on Sundays only. It
is after all the "Electric" (Crossrail) lines at Forest Gate that the
Woodgrange Park line connects to. Shoeburyness is about the same
distance from London as Reading, and Reading is the 15th stop after
Paddington, whereas Shoeburyness would be the 18th stop after Liverpool
Street (if Maryland and Forest Gate were served by the Shoebury trains).
Maybe they will wait to see how well the Abbey Wood branch is used on
Sunday before publicly contemplating that. (I have no idea how long the
platforms are on the Shoebury line)

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message ,
at 04:19:40 on Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Offramp remarked:
you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running
to FS on Sundays

I like Fenchurch Street; I think it is very pretty and even mysterious.
But I have lived in London my entire long life and used it only twice.

I've travelled round London for over 50 years, and even lived for
long periods in Essex; but have *never* been to Fenchurch Street.
I've done Tower Gateway a couple of times, which almost counts.

You've not lived there long enough obviously. I went by boat train to
Tilbury Riverside in 1960 from Fenchurch St.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message ,
at 04:19:40 on Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Offramp remarked:
you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all running
to FS on Sundays

I like Fenchurch Street; I think it is very pretty and even mysterious.
But I have lived in London my entire long life and used it only twice.

I've travelled round London for over 50 years, and even lived for
long periods in Essex; but have *never* been to Fenchurch Street.
I've done Tower Gateway a couple of times, which almost counts.

You've not lived there long enough obviously. I went by boat train to
Tilbury Riverside in 1960 from Fenchurch St.

I went to Riverside, but there wasn't a boat train

it was simply the terminating point of the Upminster shuttle.

(getting the third side of the triangle was much more difficult - 1 or 2
trains a day IIRC)

tim

In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message ,
at 04:19:40 on Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Offramp
remarked:
you don't need to go back many years to find no trains at all
running to FS on Sundays

I like Fenchurch Street; I think it is very pretty and even
mysterious. But I have lived in London my entire long life and used it
only twice.

I've travelled round London for over 50 years, and even lived for
long periods in Essex; but have *never* been to Fenchurch Street.
I've done Tower Gateway a couple of times, which almost counts.

You've not lived there long enough obviously. I went by boat train to
Tilbury Riverside in 1960 from Fenchurch St.

I went to Riverside, but there wasn't a boat train

it was simply the terminating point of the Upminster shuttle.

(getting the third side of the triangle was much more difficult - 1
or 2 trains a day IIRC)

When, though?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:08:56 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


It turns out that the direct trains to Shoeburyness will all run from
Liverpool Street during the day on Sundays. Fenchurch Street will only
have the trains that serve Grays, either direct or via Chafford Hundred.
That seems surprising, that they would shift their main service out of
their main London terminus like that.

The Chafford Hundred don't terminate at Grays, they continue to
Southend Central, with an easy cross-platorm change to / from
Shoeburyness at Southend.

As for c2c platform lengths, all 12 x 20 metre apart from the bays at
Grays & Upminster.

HTH, DC

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On 2015\12\06 21:30, David C wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:08:56 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:


It turns out that the direct trains to Shoeburyness will all run from
Liverpool Street during the day on Sundays. Fenchurch Street will only
have the trains that serve Grays, either direct or via Chafford Hundred.
That seems surprising, that they would shift their main service out of
their main London terminus like that.

The Chafford Hundred don't terminate at Grays, they continue to
Southend Central, with an easy cross-platorm change to / from
Shoeburyness at Southend.

I didn't say they terminate at Grays, I said they serve it.

As for c2c platform lengths, all 12 x 20 metre apart from the bays at
Grays & Upminster.

Thanks!