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(e27002 aurora) wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:33:48 +0000, wrote: * not necessarily the national government, could be whatever was governing London. in that case could the Met have shrunk back further than Amersham. That may yet happen. It is not hard to see a future were the Met Line runs to Watford and Chiltern take over the service to Amersham and Chesham. Which will soon be to Milton Keynes of course. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In article , (e27002 aurora) wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:33:48 +0000, wrote: * not necessarily the national government, could be whatever was governing London. in that case could the Met have shrunk back further than Amersham. That may yet happen. It is not hard to see a future were the Met Line runs to Watford and Chiltern take over the service to Amersham and Chesham. Which will soon be to Milton Keynes of course. Probably not 'soon' by any normal definition. Also, I'm not sure if the infrequent trains that go to Bletchley will be the ones that go via the Amersham route. |
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-septe mber.org, at 10:12:52 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner remarked: And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the tradition. Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names. Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'? -- Roland Perry |
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote: On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice wrote: On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000 Basil Jet wrote: I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road. Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the Battersea station site to the Thames. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-) I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be given a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the northern line? Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise if they still exchanged empty stock movements. If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it. Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2, Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-) TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line". That last one would probably make half the passengers want to puke....... You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a more realistic pictu More than half of the potential users of the route just would not care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world. A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored. A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al. This says more about them than the great lady. LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti. Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own, merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics. Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North America. Never let the scum win. |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septe mber.org, at 10:12:52 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner remarked: And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the tradition. Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names. Where's the vague geographic location of 'the Jubilee'? Well, it did start out as the Fleet line... Of course, once it got re-routed, that name was no longer appropriate, but I still think it was a better name. |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 05:01:54 -0600,
wrote: In article , (e27002 aurora) wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 09:59:36 +0000, Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice wrote: On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000 Basil Jet wrote: I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road. Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the Battersea station site to the Thames. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-) I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be given a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the northern line? Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise if they still exchanged empty stock movements. If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it. Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2, Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-) TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line". That last one would probably make half the passengers want to puke....... You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a more realistic pictu More than half of the potential users of the route just would not care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world. A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored. A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al. This says more about them than the great lady. LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract graffiti. Superficially you have a point Basil. But, why should conservatives only see the names of leftist "heroes" honoured, and not our own, merely because we do not resort to illegal and antisocial tactics. Let's take your point a step further: why fight Islamic State, doing so may bring about more terrorists attacks in Europe and North America. Never let the scum win. We very rarely name public facilities after party politicians. Things (e.g. the Cambridge college) have been named after Churchill precisely because he is seen as a national saviour, above party politics. Perception is all of course. Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a less controversial figure than Thatcher. That has much to do with media coverage. Wilson's capital controls, prices and incomes, and high tax policies did immense damage. Brains and capital simply left Britain. Much of the Baronesses success was down to repairing Wilson's damage. That is not the way the TV, Radio and the press reported it. |
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-septe mber.org, at 10:21:55 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Recliner remarked: And while SDO is just about OK for dealing with the last one or two sets of doors off the platforms at quiet stations, the idea of having whole carriages not on the platform on a busy metro packed with many foreign visitors is ludicrous That's a complete non-argument. After having been caught out once, the foreigners will avoid the end-coaches for the rest of their trip to London. Simples. -- Roland Perry |
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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 05:01:54 on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, remarked: Nobody has suggested naming anything after Wilson either and he's a less controversial figure than Thatcher. Things? (Other than a street in the West Midlands) He has the "Wilson Doctrine" of course. and there is Thatcherism to which some here seem to subscribe. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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