In article
-september
..org, (Recliner) wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\01\01 09:50, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:23:11 +0000, BevanPrice
wrote:

On 29/12/2015 11:15, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:05:52 GMT, d
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
I notice that "Nine Elms" roundels have gone up all over the
hoarding surrounding the former Sainsburys opposite Wilcox Road.

Boris has also ceremonially started a conveyor belt from the
Battersea station site to the Thames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjSnzw38iI

Maybe they should have just built a two way conveyor from Battersea
to Vauxhall and then we wouldn't need the railway ;-)

I wonder if when that extension is built and the line is
operationally split in 2 whether one half of the line will be given
a new name or whether it'll still all be known as the northern line?

Logically two independent lines should have two names. Independent
from a customer facing standpoint that is. It would be no surprise
if they still exchanged empty stock movements.

If the bits that were the "Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead
Railway" remain together, the "Hampstead Line" has a good ring to it.

Or, how about something royal? "The Queen Elizabeth Line", "The
Charles, Prince of Wales Line", or "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
Line". I suspect in every day speech these would become the QE2,
Charlie, or Duchess Lines respectively. :-)

TfL could celebrate a great politician: "The Cromwell Line", "The
Winston Spencer Churchill Line", or, especially the part that
includes the Barnett Branch "The Baroness Thatcher Line".


That last one would probably make half the passengers want to
puke.......

You are believing your own leftist propaganda. Allow me to paint a
more realistic pictu
More than half of the potential users of the route just would not
care. Sad, but welcome to the modern apathetic world.

A healthy number would be happy to see the Iron Lady so honored.

A boisterous left wing minority would make a lot of obscene fuss. They
would use the methods at their disposal, vandalism, graffiti et al.
This says more about them than the great lady.

LU would be stupid to use a name which would obviously attract
graffiti.

Exactly. Better never to name lines after politicians, or better still,
people at all. I'd no more want a Thatcher line than a Livingstone line
(ignoring his extremist politics for a moment, the latter probably did
more to help LU than most politicians).

And apart from the Victoria line, which is really named after Victoria
station, rather than the queen herself, that's long been the tradition.
Far better to have anodyne, vaguely geographic names.

In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet
would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees
since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:


In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet
would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees
since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:

In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria,
Jubilee (originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I
think that Fleet would have been a better name, especially as there
have been 2 more jubilees since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

You didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I aid the names were
unimaginative, not necessarily bad. For the record I don't think Victoria or
jubilee are bad names. I think Cross rail is still because many tube lines
could be called crossrail.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 05:17:32 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:

In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria,
Jubilee (originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I
think that Fleet would have been a better name, especially as there
have been 2 more jubilees since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

You didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I aid the names were
unimaginative, not necessarily bad. For the record I don't think Victoria or
jubilee are bad names. I think Cross rail is still because many tube lines
could be called crossrail.

Point taken councillor.

In message , at 10:59:02 on
Fri, 1 Jan 2016, e27002 aurora remarked:

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called.

It could well be merged into the Overground brand.

Meanwhile Crossrail is not bad.

Thameslink has clung on, despite attempts to name it stupid things like
First Capital Connect.
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 11:32:56 +0000, Robert
wrote:

On 2016-01-01 10:59:02 +0000, e27002 aurora said:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:


In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet
would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees
since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

Apart from the Beatles, Alexis Korner and the Rolling Stones...


One is not sure encouraging indolence, rebellion, and the use of
health harming substances was an altogether good thing.

Better, IMHO, if the New Elizabethan period was known for the music
Ralph Vaughan Williams.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

The word 'Fleet' (also written as 'Fleth') in old lower German means a
small watercourse running into a larger river - it has nothing
whatsoever to do with sewers. The word is still used for streams
running into the Weser and Elbe in northern Germany and derives from
'fließen' - meaning 'to flow'.

The word was brought to England by peoples originating from, and
trading with, their homelands in that part of the world. And its
etymology shows that it derives from yet older lndo-European languages
- so probably just as old as 'Jubilee'.

Understood Robert. However, in London, the stream that starts @ the
pools of Hampstead and Highgate and flows to the Thames @ Blackfriars
is best remembered as the Fleet Sewer. Ione assumes it is now clean
again.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Er, the Hammersmith & City Railway (H&CR) was financed jointly by the
GWR and the Metropolitain Railway and opened in 1864. There is nothing
artificial about it.

Point taken. When I lived in London 40 years back, the H&C was simply
part of the Met. If TfL want to maintain the GWR connection how about
helping the longsuffering passengers and restoring the cross-platform
interchange at Paddington. Before the issue of crossing the 3rd and
4th rail tracks comes up, that could be avoided with a long single
track from Royal Oak to platform 16.




Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

Crossrail.

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 10:59:02
on Fri, 1 Jan 2016, e27002 aurora remarked:

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called.

It could well be merged into the Overground brand.

Meanwhile Crossrail is not bad.

Thameslink has clung on, despite attempts to name it stupid things
like First Capital Connect.

Which wasn't just Thameslink of course.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 05:17:32 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:

In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that
Fleet would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2
more jubilees since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

You didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I said the names were
unimaginative, not necessarily bad. For the record I don't think Victoria
or jubilee are bad names. I think Cross rail is still because many tube
lines could be called crossrail.

Point taken councillor.

Not a councillor since 2014. I'm just a pensioner these days.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 2016\01\01 10:59, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:


In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet
would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees
since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Isn't its usage on certain signs, for instance at Baker Street, a lot
older than its sudden appearance on the tube map in 1990?

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

"The Crossrail Line" sounds a little odd though.

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 07:35:51 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 05:17:32 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600,
wrote:

In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty
unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee
(originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that
Fleet would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2
more jubilees since Horace Cutler decided on the name.

Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of
the few good things to come out of the 1960s.

The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its
British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer.

Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the
Metropolitan, and is very awkward.

Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile
Crossrail is not bad.

You didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I said the names were
unimaginative, not necessarily bad. For the record I don't think Victoria
or jubilee are bad names. I think Cross rail is still because many tube
lines could be called crossrail.

Point taken councillor.

Not a councillor since 2014. I'm just a pensioner these days.

So, under the UK tradition you do not retain the title after your term
in office?

US tradition is slightly more familiar to me. Certain titles,
President, Congressman, Judge, remain with the holder after his term

Strictly speaking there are five living men who should be addressed as
"Mr President". Of, course only one of them is currently serving his
term.