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Basil Jet[_4_] January 13th 16 02:10 PM

Map of station usage
 

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Martin Coffee January 13th 16 02:30 PM

Map of station usage
 
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


It seems to be working for me.

Roland Perry January 13th 16 02:47 PM

Map of station usage
 
In message , at 15:10:23 on Wed, 13 Jan
2016, Basil Jet remarked:
I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year to
the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64% Season
tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14
--
Roland Perry

Basil Jet[_4_] January 13th 16 04:46 PM

Map of station usage
 
On 2016\01\13 15:30, Martin Coffee wrote:
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


It seems to be working for me.


I don't get any colours alongside the operator names, but that's no
biggy. The lack of any clue what the blob sizes mean is my main beef.

I'm using Safari on a Mac.

Sam Wilson January 13th 16 05:25 PM

Map of station usage
 
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:

On 2016\01\13 15:30, Martin Coffee wrote:
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


It seems to be working for me.


I don't get any colours alongside the operator names, but that's no
biggy. The lack of any clue what the blob sizes mean is my main beef.

I'm using Safari on a Mac.


I'm also using a Mac. The Information panel tells you what the blob
size means (though without quantifying it) - "The symbols used to
represent stations on this map are shown at a size proportional to the
total number of entries and exits for 2013-2014 (using a logarithmic
scale)."

Clicking on the station brings up stats, a bigger panel than if you just
hover over it; that works in both Safari (slightly old) and Firefox (up
to date). Firefox sometimes fails to load icons and Safari consistently
fails to load the 'close' button icon, but apart from that both work
FSVO "work".

Sam

--
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

Basil Jet[_4_] January 13th 16 06:28 PM

Map of station usage
 
On 2016\01\13 19:07, Hils wrote:
On 13/01/16 18:25, Sam Wilson wrote:
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:

On 2016\01\13 15:30, Martin Coffee wrote:
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

It seems to be working for me.

I don't get any colours alongside the operator names, but that's no
biggy. The lack of any clue what the blob sizes mean is my main beef.

I'm using Safari on a Mac.


I'm also using a Mac. The Information panel tells you what the blob
size means (though without quantifying it) - "The symbols used to
represent stations on this map are shown at a size proportional to the
total number of entries and exits for 2013-2014 (using a logarithmic
scale)."


A linear scale would be a useful option.


I think blob radius should be proportional to the cube root of the
passenger number, as if the blob is a sphere. This would give a 50
million station 10 times the width of a 50 thousand one. Using log is
bizarre and inappropriate.

Clicking on the station brings up stats, a bigger panel than if you just
hover over it;


Thanks, I only discovered the hover panels.

BevanPrice January 13th 16 09:18 PM

Map of station usage
 
On 13/01/2016 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work,
but the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html



(Firefox / Windows 10)

Map is excellent.

Map key now working for me, but when I first tried, I just got jumbled
layers of text.

Must have taken a lot of work to implement.





Richard J.[_3_] January 13th 16 09:45 PM

Map of station usage
 
Basil Jet wrote on 13 Jan 2016 at 19:28 ...
On 2016\01\13 19:07, Hils wrote:
On 13/01/16 18:25, Sam Wilson wrote:
In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:

On 2016\01\13 15:30, Martin Coffee wrote:
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

It seems to be working for me.

I don't get any colours alongside the operator names, but that's no
biggy. The lack of any clue what the blob sizes mean is my main beef.

I'm using Safari on a Mac.

I'm also using a Mac. The Information panel tells you what the blob
size means (though without quantifying it) - "The symbols used to
represent stations on this map are shown at a size proportional to the
total number of entries and exits for 2013-2014 (using a logarithmic
scale)."


A linear scale would be a useful option.


I think blob radius should be proportional to the cube root of the
passenger number, as if the blob is a sphere. This would give a 50
million station 10 times the width of a 50 thousand one.


That is a neat mathematical concept, but it doesn't work in practice.
If Achnasheen (3972 entries and exits) had a blob 1mm in diameter, then
London Waterloo (98,442,742) would have to be 29mm in diameter, and all
the south London termini would merge into a huge blob.

Using log is bizarre and inappropriate.


Using logarithms to illustrate the differences in scale of a very widely
dispersed series is a well-known graphical technique, and it's entirely
appropriate here. Using your cube-root idea would seriously degrade the
legibility of the map in London and other urban centres.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

[email protected] January 14th 16 08:40 AM

Map of station usage
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:10:23 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


Its sad how sparse the network is, especially in east anglia. People who waffle
on about the demise of the private car really need to take a good look at this
map.

--
Spud


Sam Wilson January 14th 16 09:02 AM

Map of station usage
 
In article ,
BevanPrice wrote:

On 13/01/2016 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work,
but the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html



(Firefox / Windows 10)

Map is excellent.

Map key now working for me, but when I first tried, I just got jumbled
layers of text.


That happened for me before the browser loaded the images - the ALT text
was displayed instead. On the 2nd or 3rd reload the images came down
too.

Must have taken a lot of work to implement.


Agreed - thanks to the authors.

Sam

--
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

[email protected] January 14th 16 11:29 AM

Map of station usage
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 15:10:23 on Wed, 13 Jan
2016, Basil Jet remarked:
I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14


I presume the season ticket holder left school. Shippea Hill has lost a
third of its other passengers, however.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

David Cantrell January 14th 16 12:17 PM

Map of station usage
 
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 03:10:23PM +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


It does an excellent job of showing how big a lie headlines are that
just look at the full turn-up-and-go fares.

--
David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information

Wow, my first sigquoting! I feel so special now!
-- Dan Sugalski

Roland Perry January 14th 16 12:33 PM

Map of station usage
 
In message , at 06:29:23
on Thu, 14 Jan 2016, remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14


I presume the season ticket holder left school.


The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get back?

Shippea Hill has lost a third of its other passengers, however.


--
Roland Perry

e27002 aurora January 14th 16 01:34 PM

Map of station usage
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:46:37 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\01\13 15:30, Martin Coffee wrote:
On 13/01/16 15:10, Basil Jet wrote:

I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work, but
the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html


It seems to be working for me.


I don't get any colours alongside the operator names, but that's no
biggy. The lack of any clue what the blob sizes mean is my main beef.

I'm using Safari on a Mac.


Sorry to hear that Basil. :-)

You owe it to yourself to give Firefox a try.

BevanPrice January 14th 16 03:05 PM

Map of station usage
 
On 14/01/2016 09:40, d wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:10:23 +0000 Basil Jet
wrote:
I haven't seen this before. The key is incomplete and doesn't work,
but the map itself is still useful.

http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Its sad how sparse the network is, especially in east anglia. People
who waffle on about the demise of the private car really need to take
a good look at this map.

-- Spud



Yes - a lot of lines were closed by Marples/Beeching, and some even
before that. All the cities and large towns retain railways, but
elsewhere the population density is fairly light, with smallish towns
(under about 10000 population), villages and lots of space between them
- certainly nowhere large enough to support viable rail services.


[email protected] January 14th 16 09:36 PM

Map of station usage
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
06:29:23 on Thu, 14 Jan 2016,
remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14


I presume the season ticket holder left school.


The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get
back?


I understand her father picked her up. I actually saw her on that train once
and was told about her by the guard. On that occasion someone also got off
at Shippea Hill but he wasn't a regular.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry January 15th 16 07:21 AM

Map of station usage
 
In message , at 16:36:36
on Thu, 14 Jan 2016, remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14

I presume the season ticket holder left school.


The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get
back?


I understand her father picked her up. I actually saw her on that train once
and was told about her by the guard. On that occasion someone also got off
at Shippea Hill but he wasn't a regular.


One of the problems with this anecdote is that the total entries and
exits in 2012-2013 was 50, with 64% on a season ticket. Which is 32, and
because it's based on ticket sales rather than an actual census means
they sold 16 days "worth" of season ticket. Perhaps they have some sort
of standard multiplier, in which case 4 days per weekly season would
seem to fit. So they only sold four weekly season tickets.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] January 15th 16 10:25 AM

Map of station usage
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
16:36:36 on Thu, 14 Jan 2016,
remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14

I presume the season ticket holder left school.

The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get
back?


I understand her father picked her up. I actually saw her on that train
once and was told about her by the guard. On that occasion someone also
got off at Shippea Hill but he wasn't a regular.


One of the problems with this anecdote is that the total entries and
exits in 2012-2013 was 50, with 64% on a season ticket. Which is 32,
and because it's based on ticket sales rather than an actual census
means they sold 16 days "worth" of season ticket. Perhaps they have
some sort of standard multiplier, in which case 4 days per weekly
season would seem to fit. So they only sold four weekly season
tickets.


Judging from how old she looked when I travelled (in 2012 IIRC) she left
school during that year. ISTR the previous year's usage figures were
somewhat higher and several years ago's (before she started school in
Thetford) somewhat lower though not quite as low as the most recent figure.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry January 15th 16 01:01 PM

Map of station usage
 
In message , at 05:25:13
on Fri, 15 Jan 2016, remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one year
to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went from 64%
Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14

I presume the season ticket holder left school.

The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get
back?

I understand her father picked her up. I actually saw her on that train
once and was told about her by the guard. On that occasion someone also
got off at Shippea Hill but he wasn't a regular.


One of the problems with this anecdote is that the total entries and
exits in 2012-2013 was 50, with 64% on a season ticket. Which is 32,
and because it's based on ticket sales rather than an actual census
means they sold 16 days "worth" of season ticket. Perhaps they have
some sort of standard multiplier, in which case 4 days per weekly
season would seem to fit. So they only sold four weekly season
tickets.


Judging from how old she looked when I travelled (in 2012 IIRC) she left
school during that year. ISTR the previous year's usage figures were
somewhat higher and several years ago's (before she started school in
Thetford) somewhat lower though not quite as low as the most recent figure.


I've got some of the old numbers he

09/10: 352 seasons in and 352 out
08/09: 354
07/08: 377
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] January 15th 16 02:30 PM

Map of station usage
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
05:25:13 on Fri, 15 Jan 2016,
remarked:
http://www.merrittcartographic.co.uk..._railways.html

Competition time!

Which stations have the biggest shift of ticket types from one
year to the next. My first candidate is Shippea Hill which went
from 64% Season tickets in 2012-13 to 0% in 2013-14

I presume the season ticket holder left school.

The only weekday train is the 7:28 to Norwich. How would they get
back?

I understand her father picked her up. I actually saw her on that
train once and was told about her by the guard. On that occasion
someone also got off at Shippea Hill but he wasn't a regular.

One of the problems with this anecdote is that the total entries and
exits in 2012-2013 was 50, with 64% on a season ticket. Which is 32,
and because it's based on ticket sales rather than an actual census
means they sold 16 days "worth" of season ticket. Perhaps they have
some sort of standard multiplier, in which case 4 days per weekly
season would seem to fit. So they only sold four weekly season
tickets.


Judging from how old she looked when I travelled (in 2012 IIRC) she left
school during that year. ISTR the previous year's usage figures were
somewhat higher and several years ago's (before she started school in
Thetford) somewhat lower though not quite as low as the most recent
figure.


I've got some of the old numbers he

09/10: 352 seasons in and 352 out
08/09: 354
07/08: 377


Consistent with leaving school during 2012-13.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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