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eastender[_5_] February 19th 16 09:39 AM

ELL closure
 
On 2016-02-19 09:28:33 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:45:08 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:27:44 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
Becuase spending £1,000,000 for a £2,000,000 benefit is worth doing.
But changing the plan so you spend £1,000,001 for a £1,999,999
benefit means your change isn't worth having. Or changing the plan
so you spend £1,000,001 for a £2,000,000.01 benefit makes your
change daft.

Newsflash - LO doesn't exist to make a profit.


Why bring profit into this discussion? As you say, it's largely irrelevant
to a public service.

Which currently on the ELL its not doing. Using your logic the whole
system should be shut down since it requires a massive subsidy and almost
certainly always will do.


What? That doesn't follow at all from what I wrote at all. Moreover,
it's patent nonsense.

In the context of a public service, do you really think that
cost and benefit has anything to do with profit?


Listen, why not take a trip to highbury and ask all the people waiting at
the ELL replacement bus stop whether they give a rats backside about your
cost benefit analysis of installing one set of points that would have allowed
a 3 mile section of line to run to the City and back.


Thought you said hardly anyone was using the line basd on your
extensive research.

E.



Someone Somewhere February 19th 16 09:53 AM

ELL closure
 
On 19/02/2016 10:39, eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 09:28:33 +0000, d said:

Listen, why not take a trip to highbury and ask all the people waiting at
the ELL replacement bus stop whether they give a rats backside about your
cost benefit analysis of installing one set of points that would have
allowed
a 3 mile section of line to run to the City and back.


Thought you said hardly anyone was using the line basd on your extensive
research.

E.


There's certainly enough trying to go Northbound from Shadwell as well -
I could lean out of my window and ask them for their views, but I'd
prefer to keep the remaining heat in (my central heating is on the blink)

[email protected] February 19th 16 09:56 AM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:39:56 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 09:28:33 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:45:08 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:27:44 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
Becuase spending £1,000,000 for a £2,000,000 benefit is worth doing.
But changing the plan so you spend £1,000,001 for a £1,999,999
benefit means your change isn't worth having. Or changing the plan
so you spend £1,000,001 for a £2,000,000.01 benefit makes your
change daft.

Newsflash - LO doesn't exist to make a profit.

Why bring profit into this discussion? As you say, it's largely irrelevant
to a public service.

Which currently on the ELL its not doing. Using your logic the whole
system should be shut down since it requires a massive subsidy and almost
certainly always will do.

What? That doesn't follow at all from what I wrote at all. Moreover,
it's patent nonsense.

In the context of a public service, do you really think that
cost and benefit has anything to do with profit?


Listen, why not take a trip to highbury and ask all the people waiting at
the ELL replacement bus stop whether they give a rats backside about your
cost benefit analysis of installing one set of points that would have allowed
a 3 mile section of line to run to the City and back.


Thought you said hardly anyone was using the line basd on your
extensive research.


*sigh*

There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.

--
Spud


eastender[_5_] February 19th 16 10:42 AM

ELL closure
 
On 2016-02-19 10:56:43 +0000, d said:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:39:56 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 09:28:33 +0000,
d said:

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:45:08 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:27:44 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote:
Becuase spending £1,000,000 for a £2,000,000 benefit is worth doing.
But changing the plan so you spend £1,000,001 for a £1,999,999
benefit means your change isn't worth having. Or changing the plan
so you spend £1,000,001 for a £2,000,000.01 benefit makes your
change daft.

Newsflash - LO doesn't exist to make a profit.

Why bring profit into this discussion? As you say, it's largely irrelevant
to a public service.

Which currently on the ELL its not doing. Using your logic the whole
system should be shut down since it requires a massive subsidy and almost
certainly always will do.

What? That doesn't follow at all from what I wrote at all. Moreover,
it's patent nonsense.

In the context of a public service, do you really think that
cost and benefit has anything to do with profit?

Listen, why not take a trip to highbury and ask all the people waiting at
the ELL replacement bus stop whether they give a rats backside about your
cost benefit analysis of installing one set of points that would have allowed
a 3 mile section of line to run to the City and back.


Thought you said hardly anyone was using the line basd on your
extensive research.


*sigh*

There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.


That would be fewer not less people. Maybe though you're one of the
lesser people of these islands.

E.


[email protected] February 19th 16 11:12 AM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:42:14 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 10:56:43 +0000, d said:
There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.


That would be fewer not less people. Maybe though you're one of the
lesser people of these islands.


Picking someone up on grammar or spelling means you instantly lose the argument
since you clearly have nothing of actual relevance to add.

Thanks for playing.

--
Spud


Recliner[_3_] February 19th 16 11:19 AM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:12:14 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:42:14 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 10:56:43 +0000,
d said:
There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.


That would be fewer not less people. Maybe though you're one of the
lesser people of these islands.


Picking someone up on grammar or spelling means you instantly lose the argument
since you clearly have nothing of actual relevance to add.


Means to whom? Your poor skills with the English language undermine
your arguments on every topic, if they're even intelligible.

And when did you last add anything of actual relevance anyway?

[email protected] February 19th 16 12:44 PM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:19:03 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:12:14 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:42:14 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 10:56:43 +0000,
d said:
There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.

That would be fewer not less people. Maybe though you're one of the
lesser people of these islands.


Picking someone up on grammar or spelling means you instantly lose the

argument
since you clearly have nothing of actual relevance to add.


Means to whom? Your poor skills with the English language undermine
your arguments on every topic, if they're even intelligible.


Two in a row, this group is surpassing itself today.

--
Spud



Theo[_2_] February 19th 16 01:07 PM

ELL closure
 
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\02\18 11:45, Theo wrote:
The army and some older municipal vehicles aren't constrained by this rule
and use other parts of the letter space.


Which letter space? Latin or Greek?


Greek. Newer municipals use common letters on an orange plate. I can't
remember if the army also use common letters on newer stuff (army kit tends
to last a long time).

I think it's Saudi Arabia that has plates in Arabic numbers and letters (but
not in script) and then a smaller Latin transliteration underneath.

Theo

David Cantrell February 19th 16 01:40 PM

ELL closure
 
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 02:40:51PM +0000, d wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
Oh GOOD sigmonster.

?


Please don't try to pretend that you're new to this internet thing. We
all know that you're not.

--
David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet

The Law of Daves: in any gathering of technical people, the
number of Daves will be greater than the number of women.

[email protected] February 19th 16 01:53 PM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:40:26 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 02:40:51PM +0000, d wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
Oh GOOD sigmonster.

?


Please don't try to pretend that you're new to this internet thing. We
all know that you're not.


I never claimed otherwise. But I still have no idea what you were referring to.
TBH I don't particularly care either.

--
Spud



Recliner[_3_] February 19th 16 02:18 PM

ELL closure
 
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:19:03 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:12:14 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:42:14 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-02-19 10:56:43 +0000,
d said:
There should be a utl.janet-and-john group really for some of the people on
here.

Yes, a lot less people were using it last time I went on it a few months
back. But even 50% full trains add up to a lot of messed up journeys over
9 days.

That would be fewer not less people. Maybe though you're one of the
lesser people of these islands.

Picking someone up on grammar or spelling means you instantly lose the

argument
since you clearly have nothing of actual relevance to add.


Means to whom? Your poor skills with the English language undermine
your arguments on every topic, if they're even intelligible.


Two in a row, this group is surpassing itself today.


And, as usual, you're contributing nothing except badly phrased, misspelt
whines and insults.

You wouldn't be so miserable and frustrated if you worked on your
inadequate communications skills. I'm sure your ESL teacher can help.

[email protected] February 19th 16 02:36 PM

ELL closure
 
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:18:04 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
And, as usual, you're contributing nothing except badly phrased, misspelt
whines and insults.


Sounds like you're hearing things. Perhaps put on your tin foil hat?

--
Spud



Recliner[_3_] February 19th 16 03:17 PM

ELL closure
 
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:18:04 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
And, as usual, you're contributing nothing except badly phrased, misspelt
whines and insults.


Sounds like you're hearing things. Perhaps put on your tin foil hat?


You must have had help with that comment, as it's grammatical and has no
misspellings. But where did the tin foil hat come from? No-one but you
has mentioned one.


D A Stocks[_2_] February 20th 16 07:12 AM

ELL closure
 
wrote in message ...

So you think a set of reversing points which would have allowed the line
to run instead of being completely closed anytime there's an issue north
of
shadwell is a waste of money and **** the passengers? I guess you must
work
for TfL. Either that or its idiot week on here again.


So you managed an apostrophe for there's but forgot it's ...

--
DAS


[email protected] February 21st 16 12:35 PM

ELL closure
 
On 18.02.16 19:26, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\02\18 11:45, Theo wrote:
Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

Greek road vehicle number plates are Latin alphabet (except the Greek
army
uses Greek).


No, they're the intersection of the Latin and Greek alphabets. So:
PHB 1234
could be read as pee-aitch-bee or rho-eta-veta depending on which
alphabet
you use, but the plate is unique in either system. There are no letters
used which aren't in both alphabets.


The Bulgarians and Russians do the exact same thing as their respective
languages use Cyrillic.

Kazakhs use the Latin alphabet, even though they officially use
Cyrillic. There is an official Latin version of their language, I note,
though they generally don't use it.

Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh actually use Armenian on their vehicle
registration plates, though authorities abroad can easily interpret them
as Latin.

It appears that vehicle registration plates in Georgia, a country with a
language that uses a rather unique alphabet, have to use Latin.

GCC vehicle registration plates display Latin and Arabic script, IIRC.
You see them in the West End, around Grosvenor Square.




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