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Ruud February 25th 04 08:04 PM

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Hi everybody,

First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's (train's)
sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?

Thanks in advance for any answers.
Ruud.



Mait001 February 25th 04 08:11 PM

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Hi everybody,

First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's (train's)
sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?

Thanks in advance for any answers.
Ruud.


It should be very easy, Ruud: when you get into the station, there will be a
line diagram listing all the stations that can be reached from each platform.

For example, if you enter Bayswater, there will be a sign with a line-diagram
on it listing all of the stations on the Circle (yellow) Line that will be
reached from that platform, i.e. Notting Hill Gate, High Street Kensington,
etc. In this particular example you will then need to wait on the platform
until a "CIRCLE LINE" train arrives, making sure not to get a DISTRICT LINE
train that would take you to Earl's Court.

Good luck and bon voyage!

Marc.


Joe February 25th 04 08:19 PM

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For example, if you enter Bayswater, there will be a sign with a
line-diagram
on it listing all of the stations on the Circle (yellow) Line that will be
reached from that platform, i.e. Notting Hill Gate, High Street

Kensington,
etc. In this particular example you will then need to wait on the

platform
until a "CIRCLE LINE" train arrives, making sure not to get a DISTRICT

LINE
train that would take you to Earl's Court.


Just to add confusion, the circle line has no terminus point (except at
night but theyre not classed as such), but the trains to St. James'(s?) park
will say Circle Line Via. Victoria



John Rowland February 25th 04 08:21 PM

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"Ruud" wrote in message
...

Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?


Usually the direction the trains are going, either "Eastbound", "Westbound",
"Northbound" or "Southbound".

On the Circle Line, "Eastbound" and "Westbound" are used on the north side
and south sides of the Circle, so on the Eastbound platform at Moorgate, a
Circle Line train will take you to Tower Hill, and from the Eatsbound
platform at Tower Hill a Circle line train will take you back to Moorgate.
(I can't remember what is used on the west side of the Circle.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Ruud February 25th 04 08:32 PM

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"Joe" schreef in bericht
...
For example, if you enter Bayswater, there will be a sign with a

line-diagram
on it listing all of the stations on the Circle (yellow) Line that will

be
reached from that platform, i.e. Notting Hill Gate, High Street

Kensington,
etc. In this particular example you will then need to wait on the

platform
until a "CIRCLE LINE" train arrives, making sure not to get a DISTRICT

LINE
train that would take you to Earl's Court.


Just to add confusion, the circle line has no terminus point (except at
night but theyre not classed as such), but the trains to St. James'(s?)

park
will say Circle Line Via. Victoria


OK guys, thanks very much, I'm beginning to learn ;-)

But let me put it slightly different.
If I enter Bayswater station, I must choose between going north (to Baker
street) or going south (to Sloane Sq).
How do I choose that?

Ruud.



tim February 25th 04 08:37 PM

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"Ruud" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody,

First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's (train's)
sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater

station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?


If the station has more than one line, you need to look for the name
of line on a sign with the signature colour of that line. You'll need
a map, which you can pick up at any station, to help you learn the
colours.

As to finding the correct direction, they are indicated using the
compass directions, North, South, East or West and it is usually
obvious which one you need to look for.

tim





Thanks in advance for any answers.
Ruud.





Proctor46 February 25th 04 09:03 PM

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ep when I walk into Bayswater station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).



go into Baywater Station -----buy a ticket----go the top of the stairs....turn
to the [your] LEFT... and this is the platform for St. James Park.... the
Circle Line runs about every 7 1/2mins........ the station before St.James is
Victoria.....and it will ltake you about 14 mins.to get there....have a good
trip p46

Richard J. February 25th 04 09:04 PM

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tim wrote:
"Ruud" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody,

First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's
(train's) sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater
station, and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line
(circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?


snip
As to finding the correct direction, they are indicated using the
compass directions, North, South, East or West and it is usually
obvious which one you need to look for.


However, it's not obvious at Bayswater. The Tube Map shows the line as
running north-south, but it actually runs east-west at this point!

You will find that at Bayswater:
Platform 1 ("Westbound") is for District Line trains to Wimbledon (via
Earl's Court), and Circle Line trains via Victoria (and St James's
Park).
Platform 2 ("Eastbound") is for District Line trains to Edgware Road,
and Circle Line trains via King's Cross.
The signs after you pass through the ticket gates should make this
clear, and the train destinations will be shown on the platform
indicators.

On the Circle Line trains, the indicator on the front will read just
"Circle Line" for both directions, but you will have Emma's friendly
voice in the cars telling you where it's going.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Ruud February 25th 04 09:24 PM

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"Proctor46" schreef in bericht
...
ep when I walk into Bayswater station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).



go into Baywater Station -----buy a ticket----go the top of the

stairs....turn
to the [your] LEFT... and this is the platform for St. James Park....

the
Circle Line runs about every 7 1/2mins........ the station before St.James

is
Victoria.....and it will ltake you about 14 mins.to get there....have a

good
trip p46



OK, thanks e v e r y b o d y for your nice answers.
I think I will make it in London.

I'll be there in july, I'll see you all there ;-))

But serious, thank you all.
Ruud.



Paul Corfield February 26th 04 05:52 PM

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:04:00 +0100, "Ruud"
wrote:

Hi everybody,

First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's (train's)
sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?


A very good question to ask. I once assumed that on my first visit to
Paris that the Metro signs would be just like London - how wrong I was.
I got terribly confused!

Lots of good advice in other messages.

In London you have several aids to help you get about

1. Line colour - this is repeated consistently throughout the
system for whatever line you want. District is always Green, Circle is
always Yellow, Central is always Red etc.

2. Each line has a name - instead of a number or even series of
numbers over the same tracks.

3. Signage refers to a geographical direction for the way that the
train is running - so eastbound, northbound, westbound or southbound. As
the Tube Map is diagrammatically represented in this way it is usually
very easy - provided you hold the Tube Map the right way up.

Finally you get the display on the platform which will show the end of a
line - e.g Brixton or Walthamstow on the Victoria Line. The Circle just
says Circle Line on the front but the displays will show you major
station around the loop the train goes via (e.g. Baker St, Kings Cross,
Victoria etc).

An important thing to remember with the circle line is the following.
You can, of course, go either way round the circle to reach a station.
When you get to the line diagram signs (before you walk to a particular
platform in the station) you will see half of the circle shown on one
sign for one direction and other half on the other sign. The sign that
has the station you want to travel to points to the direction that is
quickest.

As an example you might want to go to Tower Hill from Bayswater - as it
is about half way round the Circle Line look for the sign with Tower
Hill on it - that will be quickest (assuming no delays!).

A quick way to work out how long a journey will take is to count the
gaps between the stations and multiply by 2 minutes. Add 5 minutes if
you need to change between lines. That gives a good estimate for most
journey times.

Also you might want to try the scenic route from Bayswater to St James
Park - there is a 148 bus that will take you past Hyde Park, Marble
Arch, Hyde Park Corner, through Victoria and you can get off by New
Scotland Yard (police hq). There's a bus every 10 minutes - nice way to
see lots of green space.

Enjoy your trip.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!









Acrosticus February 26th 04 05:59 PM

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From: "tim"
Date: 25/02/2004 21:37 GMT Standard Time


As to finding the correct direction, they are indicated using the
compass directions, North, South, East or West and it is usually
obvious which one you need to look for.


I like the use of the words "usually" and "obvious" in close proximity here!
Catching an Eastbound Piccadilly to get to Cockfosters (which is about as far
north as you can get) is, to say the least, counter-intuitive and seems to have
very little to do with "obvious" or "usual" :-)



Ruud February 26th 04 06:53 PM

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"Paul Corfield" schreef in bericht
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:04:00 +0100, "Ruud"
wrote:

Hi everybody,
First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

BOBBIT

Lots of good advice in other messages.

In London you have several aids to help you get about

BOBBIT
Enjoy your trip.
--
Paul C

Admits to working for London Underground!



Dear Paul (and others of course),

Thanks very much for your comprehensive answer.

Indeed, in all answers is usefull info.
I will read it several times, and will understand it a bit more, everytime.

I'm really looking forward to come to London.
It will be my first time there, and London is one (out of 2 places) which
I'm really interested in (the second is New York).

I really love the language, and with your info (all of you) I'm sure I will
find my way.
And last but not least, I love the way, you all give friendly answers.

Best regards and all the best to you.

Ruud, Delft, the Netherlands.


P.S. Wonderfull tagline Paul !!






Clive Page February 26th 04 09:27 PM

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In article , Joe
writes
Just to add confusion, the circle line has no terminus point (except at
night but theyre not classed as such), but the trains to St. James'(s?) park
will say Circle Line Via. Victoria


Apart from the Circle Line, the normal practice is to label the two
possibilities with the general compass point, e.g. Eastbound versus
Westbound, or Northbound versus Southbound. This is clear enough,
except when the track runs diagonally, or changes direction.

Thus if were to start from King's Cross and take the Northern Line one
stop in the Northbound direction, then change to the Victoria Line and
take it one stop, again in the Northbound direction, you might be
surprised to find that you had got back at King's Cross, where you
started. But if you look at the map, you can see that this almost makes
sense.


--
Clive Page

Proctor46 February 27th 04 12:14 PM

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Circle Line

do not Circle Line trains do one day on the iner line and the next on the
outer.....so each train does the same mileage.......

Paul Corfield February 27th 04 07:47 PM

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:53:19 +0100, "Ruud"
wrote:

[snip advice]

Dear Paul (and others of course),

Thanks very much for your comprehensive answer.


You're welcome.

Indeed, in all answers is usefull info.
I will read it several times, and will understand it a bit more, everytime.

I'm really looking forward to come to London.
It will be my first time there, and London is one (out of 2 places) which
I'm really interested in (the second is New York).


New York is well worth a visit.

I really love the language, and with your info (all of you) I'm sure I will
find my way.


And your English is way ahead of my Dutch - either written or spoken.

And last but not least, I love the way, you all give friendly answers.


Ruud, Delft, the Netherlands.


Ah near Den Haag then. Quite a few years since I was over there.

P.S. Wonderfull tagline Paul !!


Well you'll probably love using the Tube when you're here - most
visitors do. It's quite another thing to deal with the complaints of our
regular travellers or even posters on this group.

Tot ziens.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!



Silvan February 28th 04 07:58 AM

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First of all, sorry for any errors in my English.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I have a question about the tube.

I'm planning to visit London for a week, and right now I am preparing
myselve to travel there.

It's a bit difficult for me to explain what I'd like to ask, but ...
Is there anybody that can explain to me, what's on the metro's (train's)
sign if you walk into a tube station.
In other words, wich direction do I keep when I walk into Bayswater

station,
and I want to go to St. Jame's Park with the yellow line (circle).
Do you look to the end station, or is there another method?

Thanks in advance for any answers.
Ruud.


Hoi Ruud,

Is in principe niet zo moeilijk. Op bijna alle stations zijn handige
plattegronden te krijgen van de tube. Meestal bij de ingang van een perron
staat al een bord met de 'volgende stations' van de betreffende lijn. Als je
bijvoorbeeld bij Victoria Station de Victoria Line neemt, en je gaat
'southbound', dan zie je voor je het perron oploopt al een bordje met de
volgende stations, zoals Green Park ..

Groeten Silvan
- van de week nog in London -




Tom Anderson February 28th 04 10:10 PM

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Paul Corfield wrote:

In London you have several aids to help you get about

1. Line colour - this is repeated consistently throughout the system for
whatever line you want. District is always Green, Circle is always
Yellow, Central is always Red etc.


Except that the Metropolitan sometimes likes to be brown. Perhaps that's
only on rather old maps; i liked it, because it meant that from Liverpool
Street to Baker Street, the northern half of the circle could be called
the Neapolitan line (bugger, i haven't had neapolitan ice cream in ages -
i really want some now!). Also, beware of old maps in some stations -
Barbican still shows the East London line as an adjunct of the
Metropolitan, i think, and somewhere central on the Piccadilly still has
Aldwych.

2. Each line has a name - instead of a number or even series of numbers
over the same tracks.


Even if the name is sometimes misleading - the tube line which goes
furthest south is the Northern line, and the line which goes furthest out
is the Central line.

3. Signage refers to a geographical direction for the way that the
train is running - so eastbound, northbound, westbound or southbound. As
the Tube Map is diagrammatically represented in this way it is usually
very easy - provided you hold the Tube Map the right way up.

Finally you get the display on the platform which will show the end of a
line - e.g Brixton or Walthamstow on the Victoria Line. The Circle just
says Circle Line on the front but the displays will show you major
station around the loop the train goes via (e.g. Baker St, Kings Cross,
Victoria etc).


Note that these indicators don't tell you what line the train is on, which
means that at platforms serving several lines (such as Liverpool Street),
you'll have to know which lines the named stations are on if you want to
figure out which line the train is on. For example, if you wanted to go
from Liverpool Street to Finchley Road, on the Metropolitan line, you'd
have to know that the Metropolitan's termini are Amersham, Watford, and
Uxbridge (and sometimes Chesham). You soon get used to this, but you may
still be foxed by weird destinations (i think i once saw a train bound for
Westbourne Park or something, and had to look at a map to figure out what
it was).

And, while we're at it, if you are going beyond Finchley Road on the
Metropolitan line, you need to know that, unlike every on other line, not
all Metropolitan trains stop at every station they go past; see
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7069/metserv.html for an
explanation. It won't matter if you never go beyond Finchley Road, though!

A quick way to work out how long a journey will take is to count the
gaps between the stations and multiply by 2 minutes.


I was taught 3 minutes.

tom

--
Come with me, and we'll go dreaming.



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