In message
-sept
ember.org, at 20:33:10 on Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Recliner
remarked:
Tourist Information Offices still issue paper statements.

Worth remembering at Liverpool St. Thanks.

I can't find a list on tfl.gov.uk, but have used them at Euston, King's
Cross St Pancras and Liverpool Street and believe there is another at
Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 3. There are probably others.

Not sure there's anything at King's Cross St Pancras now. I looked in
vain some time ago.

Western end of the western ticket hall.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/16465625344/

Photo taken by Recliner, whoever he might be!

Yes, it had just opened when I took that picture a year ago. I think it was
one of the first.

It's always been there, but was refitted and rebranded about a year ago.
--
Roland Perry

On 14/04/2016 16:49, wrote:

Not sure there's anything at King's Cross St Pancras now. I looked in vain
some time ago.

There is a newish TfL information office at King's Cross St Pancras: on
the upper level on the right as you enter from St.Pancras mainline
station, more or less under the hotel I guess. One evening last week
when I went past I was surprised to see that it appeared to be open and
with no customers waiting, and I've used it a couple of times myself and
found the queue to be short. Maybe because it's so well tucked away?


--
Clive Page

In message , at 10:04:43 on Fri, 15 Apr
2016, Clive Page remarked:
Not sure there's anything at King's Cross St Pancras now. I looked in vain
some time ago.

There is a newish TfL information office at King's Cross St Pancras: on
the upper level on the right as you enter from St.Pancras mainline
station, more or less under the hotel I guess.

It's been there a long time, but has been re-branded to go with the
closing of the ticket windows.

One evening last week when I went past I was surprised to see that it
appeared to be open and with no customers waiting, and I've used it a
couple of times myself and found the queue to be short. Maybe because
it's so well tucked away?

Whenever I've seen it there's been a substantial queue of people, with
every indication of having just arrived by E*; and they walk right past
it, of course.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 23:33:33 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 14/04/2016 09:50, d wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 23:20:11 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
My Oyster Card is registered, I have auto top up, if I ever have had a
refund it tops up my oyster card.

The system also gets to know your regular journeys and will auto refund
if something unusual happens.

I also get a spreadsheet showing my Oyster journeys for a week emailed
to me.

So TfL have your bank details and store a nice track of your journeys.
Hello big brother. Made so much easier by people just embracing it.

Yes, I'm sure they track my card too but I paid for it with cash and top it
up
with cash so they have no idea who I am and thats how its going to stay.

--
Spud



No doubt you never use a credit/debit card and you do not have a mobile
phone.

Its a bit difficult not to use cards in general. However its very easy not to
use them on the tube. Also its somewhat different buying something in a shop
than it is essentially giving an unreliable company like TfL direct access
to your bank account where it can suck out money when its computer decides.

--
Spud

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:20:08 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 20:33:10 on Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Recliner
remarked:
Tourist Information Offices still issue paper statements.

Worth remembering at Liverpool St. Thanks.

I can't find a list on tfl.gov.uk, but have used them at Euston, King's
Cross St Pancras and Liverpool Street and believe there is another at
Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 3. There are probably others.

Not sure there's anything at King's Cross St Pancras now. I looked in
vain some time ago.

Western end of the western ticket hall.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/16465625344/

Photo taken by Recliner, whoever he might be!

Yes, it had just opened when I took that picture a year ago. I think it was
one of the first.

It's always been there, but was refitted and rebranded about a year ago.

What was it called before?

In message , at 13:06:50 on
Fri, 15 Apr 2016, Recliner remarked:
Western end of the western ticket hall.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/16465625344/

Photo taken by Recliner, whoever he might be!

Yes, it had just opened when I took that picture a year ago. I think it was
one of the first.

It's always been there, but was refitted and rebranded about a year ago.

What was it called before?

Travel Information Centre.

http://www.visitlondon.com/traveller...657960-king-s-
cross-st-pancras-travel-information-centre

And they've shifted the primary emphasis from selling travel tickets to
selling venue tickets.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:49:07AM -0500, wrote:

The trouble is that auto top-up is still only really for regular users,

OP is a regular user.

unless you like TfL to hold many month's worth of travel as advance payments.

Sure. If 20 quid will break the bank, then you'll have to do things the
old-fashioned inconvenient way.

--
David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age

Suffer the little children to come unto me, as
their buying habits are most easily influenced.
-- Marketroid Jesus

On 15/04/2016 12:46, d wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 23:33:33 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 14/04/2016 09:50, d wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 23:20:11 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
My Oyster Card is registered, I have auto top up, if I ever have had a
refund it tops up my oyster card.

The system also gets to know your regular journeys and will auto refund
if something unusual happens.

I also get a spreadsheet showing my Oyster journeys for a week emailed
to me.

So TfL have your bank details and store a nice track of your journeys.
Hello big brother. Made so much easier by people just embracing it.

Yes, I'm sure they track my card too but I paid for it with cash and top it
up
with cash so they have no idea who I am and thats how its going to stay.

--
Spud



No doubt you never use a credit/debit card and you do not have a mobile
phone.

Its a bit difficult not to use cards in general. However its very easy not to
use them on the tube. Also its somewhat different buying something in a shop
than it is essentially giving an unreliable company like TfL direct access
to your bank account where it can suck out money when its computer decides.

--
Spud



I have never had a problem in the way you seem to have.
How do you pay for your phone, broadband, gas, water, electric, council
tax, etc.?

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:30:13 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
I have never had a problem in the way you seem to have.
How do you pay for your phone, broadband, gas, water, electric, council
tax, etc.?

Phone is PAYG, rest are done by cheque. The only direct debits are pension
and mortgage since I don't get a choice in those.

--
Spud

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:45:32 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:30:13 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 15/04/2016 12:46, d wrote:

Its a bit difficult not to use cards in general. However its very easy not
to
use them on the tube. Also its somewhat different buying something in a shop
than it is essentially giving an unreliable company like TfL direct access
to your bank account where it can suck out money when its computer decides.

I have never had a problem in the way you seem to have.
How do you pay for your phone, broadband, gas, water, electric, council
tax, etc.?

It's very simple - "spud" will no doubt trust whichever private
enterprise supplies his phone etc. He will view TfL and the local

As I've said, I do payg on the phone so they can't stiff me for any charges
beyond the few quid in the account.

council as beyond the pale as they're public sector organisations and
therefore corrupt, liars and incompetent. There you go - simples!

My local council have their moments, but generally speaking they're useless
so I wouldn't trust then with access to my bank account, no.

I imagine he goes in person to pay the council tax in 5p pieces over a
counter just to wind up the council employees. ;-)

I'm not sure they have any employees any more. Trying to get through to an
actual human on their helpline is like trying to find a needle in a hay barn at
night.

--
Spud