On 2016\05\03 02:00, Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\02 22:55, Recliner wrote:

The mayoral election is this week, and the UKIP candidate will be lucky to
get 10% of the first preference votes. There probably won't be a UKIP by
the time of the next mayoral election. After the June referendum,
regardless of the result, what will be its point?

We polled 20% the other day. The Cons were on 30%, and Labour were on
33%. I don't see how you can write off a party that's so close to being
first in the polls.

The current polls show UKIP getting 7% first preference votes in the London
mayoral election. It may, just, manage to come third, depending on how the
Greens do.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...alPoll_W_2.pdf

I'm not sure how coming a very distant third counts as "so close to being
first". Is there any UK region where UKIP will come higher than third or
fourth?

After the 23rd of June, what will be the role of UKIP, assume it doesn't
splinter into two or more fragments? Will the current parliamentary party
and the current leader even be in the same party? Are they even on
speaking terms?

Even Farage is reported to want to wind it up as a political party, and
turn it into a "movement".
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...ion-membership


So Orville the Duck is running a political party now.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ppe-520361.jpg

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:57:36 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\03 02:00, Recliner wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...-online-moveme
t-people-unhappy-EU-European-union-membership


So Orville the Duck is running a political party now.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ppe-520361.jpg

Well, we've got 60 year old student running Labour and Tim Nice but Dim
running the Tories.

--
Spud

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:10:43 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:57:36 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\03 02:00, Recliner wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...-online-moveme
t-people-unhappy-EU-European-union-membership


So Orville the Duck is running a political party now.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ppe-520361.jpg

Well, we've got 60 year old student running Labour and Tim Nice but Dim
running the Tories.

If only -- Corbyn is actually 66, but still fighting for student lefty
causes.

Here's a picture of him taken just this week, at a May Day rally (it
was so convenient that he felt that the Labour Party was running
smoothly enough at the moment that he could take time out to attend a
rally with the Communist Party):
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads.../000_A48CL.jpg

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 09:55:18PM -0000, Recliner wrote:
Robin9 wrote:
Sooner or later, Ukip are going to wake up and realise that they
can win the Mayoral election if they come out and state boldly
that the current policies are idiotic. I'm surprised it hasn't yet
dawned on them that they ought to campaign on behalf of
motorists.
The mayoral election is this week, and the UKIP candidate will be lucky to
get 10% of the first preference votes.

Because whoever it is hasn't bothered to do any campaigning, let alone
tell anyone about any policies he has that differentiate himself from
the other serious candidates and which lie within the mayor's powers.

--
David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing

Safety tip: never strap firearms to a hamster

On Tue, 03 May 2016 13:17:37 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote:

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 09:55:18PM -0000, Recliner wrote:
Robin9 wrote:
Sooner or later, Ukip are going to wake up and realise that they
can win the Mayoral election if they come out and state boldly
that the current policies are idiotic. I'm surprised it hasn't yet
dawned on them that they ought to campaign on behalf of
motorists.
The mayoral election is this week, and the UKIP candidate will be lucky to
get 10% of the first preference votes.

Because whoever it is hasn't bothered to do any campaigning, let alone
tell anyone about any policies he has that differentiate himself from
the other serious candidates and which lie within the mayor's powers.

Yup. His 'manifesto' looks like it was put together in five minutes
when he belatedly realised he had an opportunity for some free
publicity. It looks like UKIP knew it had no chance in that election,
and basically ignored it. In doing so, it's lost the chance to come a
decent third, and will be among three minor (UKIP, LD, Green) parties
each getting around five to ten percent of the vote

On Tue, 03 May 2016 12:43:08 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:10:43 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:57:36 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\03 02:00, Recliner wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...nd-online-move
e
t-people-unhappy-EU-European-union-membership


So Orville the Duck is running a political party now.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ppe-520361.jpg

Well, we've got 60 year old student running Labour and Tim Nice but Dim
running the Tories.

If only -- Corbyn is actually 66, but still fighting for student lefty
causes.

Yup, and thats fine by me tbh. The longer he's at the helm the longer labour
remains unelectable. Unfortunately the Tories are a bloody shambles at the
moment and need a decent opposition the kick them into back line.

--
Spud

"Recliner" wrote

Sooner or later, Ukip are going to wake up and realise that they
can win the Mayoral election if they come out and state boldly
that the current policies are idiotic. I'm surprised it hasn't yet
dawned on them that they ought to campaign on behalf of motorists.

The mayoral election is this week, and the UKIP candidate will be lucky to
get 10% of the first preference votes. There probably won't be a UKIP by
the time of the next mayoral election. After the June referendum,
regardless of the result, what will be its point?


If Leave wins, since Leave haven't defined what Leave means there will be a
two+ year row about whether (say) the "Like Switzerland" option is
satisfactory followed by maybe another referendum with a split UKIP and
resulting in no majority for any /one/ of the options offered. (Compare the
poster here who voted to keep First Past the Post because he wanted
something beyond the Alternate Vote).

If Remain wins, the UKIP, henceforth the **** party, will carry on,
collecting MEP expenses and telling supporters they were robbed.


-- --
Mike D

. . . I used the term "wake up" because it is obvious the
UKIP candidate simply does not understand what London
politics is about.

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:10:43 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:57:36 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\03 02:00, Recliner wrote:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...rand-online-mo
vemet-people-unhappy-EU-European-union-membership


So Orville the Duck is running a political party now.

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...Beppe-520361.j
pg

Well, we've got 60 year old student running Labour and Tim Nice but Dim
running the Tories.

If only -- Corbyn is actually 66, but still fighting for student lefty
causes.

Here's a picture of him taken just this week, at a May Day rally (it
was so convenient that he felt that the Labour Party was running
smoothly enough at the moment that he could take time out to attend a
rally with the Communist Party):
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads.../000_A48CL.jpg

Not just any old Communist Party but the CPGB - Marxist-Leninist.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
...

"Recliner" wrote

Sooner or later, Ukip are going to wake up and realise that they
can win the Mayoral election if they come out and state boldly
that the current policies are idiotic. I'm surprised it hasn't yet
dawned on them that they ought to campaign on behalf of motorists.

The mayoral election is this week, and the UKIP candidate will be lucky
to
get 10% of the first preference votes. There probably won't be a UKIP by
the time of the next mayoral election. After the June referendum,
regardless of the result, what will be its point?


If Leave wins, since Leave haven't defined what Leave means there will be
a two+ year row about whether (say) the "Like Switzerland" option is
satisfactory followed by maybe another referendum with a split UKIP and
resulting in no majority for any /one/ of the options offered. (Compare
the poster here who voted to keep First Past the Post because he wanted
something beyond the Alternate Vote).

and the Australians who voted to keep the (British) Monarchy because they
wanted complete separation.



If Remain wins, the UKIP, henceforth the **** party, will carry on,
collecting MEP expenses and telling supporters they were robbed.


-- --
Mike D