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GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified,
and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote:
As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. It then reopens briefly before closing again for the following weekend, after which it only partly reopens till September, after which it closes fully for for 4-5 months. Even then, there's another few months of work before the wires are up and ready. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's DC. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
David C wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. I suppose one possibility is if Chiltern needs to overhaul any of its 2-car Turbos, it could borrow one or more of the 172s as cover over the next six months while LO needs fewer, or none, of its fleet. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
In uk.railway Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. Greater Anglia seem to be sporadically short of DMUs, dragging out the LHCS occasionally when they get desperate. I don't know if that's close enough that they can still live at Willesden for maintenance. However GA don't like paying for stock - claiming they didn't need the 317s required by the previous operator on their patch. So unless they're going really cheap... Theo |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. Dependant of course on driver route and traction knowledge... Anna Noyd-Dryver |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On 28/05/2016 16:15, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. Dependant of course on driver route and traction knowledge... Anna Noyd-Dryver Might London Midland be interested in a short term hire, whilst their fire-damaged units are repaired ? |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: David C wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 14:58:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. It will be completely closed from 24 Sep to Feb 2017. It will then reopen, presumably still using the current DMUs, until the electrification is complete a few months later, and the new 4-car Aventras arrive in early 2018. http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...lectrification The line has eight 2-car 172s that are modern and in good condition, so they're in no need of renovation. I wonder if they'll just go into storage during the complete closure, or will they be loaned to any other operator that needs extra capacity, even if only for a few months? And once they've been replaced by the new Aventras, has their future home been decided? For anyone who's interested, here's a few pics I took on the line earlier this week: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57668732378626 Chiltern would be the "obvious choice", the LOROL units were ordered by Adrian Shooter & have a similar specification to the Chiltern 172's Yes, that's what I was thinking. I was wondering whose decision it is? Is there any hint of Chiltern needing some extra stock anywhere ? Depending on how the work is arranged, there could be scope for 172s substituting for the buses if suitable sections of GOBLIN were complete save for switching on the juice. That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time I assume the 172s will provide the service. They won't be available to anyone else till the Aventras enter service in 2018. So the DMUs will be running under the wires for at least six months. That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. Dependant of course on driver route and traction knowledge... Aren't the LO and Chiltern 172s more or less identical? So traction knowledge shouldn't be an issue for Chiltern drivers. That raises another question: what will the LO GOBLIN drivers be doing during the shutdown? I know there will be training courses for the new trains, but what else? |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Recliner wrote:
Aren't the LO and Chiltern 172s more or less identical? So traction knowledge shouldn't be an issue for Chiltern drivers. That raises another question: what will the LO GOBLIN drivers be doing during the shutdown? I know there will be training courses for the new trains, but what else? There aren't any dedicated GOBLIN drivers, they all drive class 378s as well so can be used on other lines. It is too early to start training people on the new stock considering the first train isn't due to arrive for 18 months. Peter Smyth |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Peter Smyth wrote:
Recliner wrote: Aren't the LO and Chiltern 172s more or less identical? So traction knowledge shouldn't be an issue for Chiltern drivers. That raises another question: what will the LO GOBLIN drivers be doing during the shutdown? I know there will be training courses for the new trains, but what else? There aren't any dedicated GOBLIN drivers, they all drive class 378s as well so can be used on other lines. Ah, I wondered. It is too early to start training people on the new stock considering the first train isn't due to arrive for 18 months. From now, yes, but during the blockade, the time to the new trains will be down to less than a year. Still too early for training, I guess. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
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(Theo) wrote: In uk.railway Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:24:53 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: That doesn't seem to leave long enough for any useful hiring out in the direction of Chiltern unless e.g. there's something big at Wembley or somewhere else (Stratford ?) they could be used for. If there is coincidence with work somewhere else then they would at least be available for e.g. diversions over alternative non-electrified routes. Greater Anglia seem to be sporadically short of DMUs, dragging out the LHCS occasionally when they get desperate. I don't know if that's close enough that they can still live at Willesden for maintenance. However GA don't like paying for stock - claiming they didn't need the 317s required by the previous operator on their patch. So unless they're going really cheap... Didn't they relent and eventually take all the 317s back one way or another? AGA's DMU shortage also shows up in the inability to run long enough trains on some services, e.g. Cambridge-Ipswich, and increase the Peterborough-Ipswich service to hourly. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
In uk.railway Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. Are you sure about that? TfL say the closure starts 4 June, and the only LO closure listed for this weekend is Romford to Upminister for Crossrail works. Theo |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On 29 May 2016 02:28:18 +0100 (BST), Theo
wrote: In uk.railway Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. Are you sure about that? TfL say the closure starts 4 June, and the only LO closure listed for this weekend is Romford to Upminister for Crossrail works. Using RTT for Upper Holloway and Woodgrange Park, GOBLIN is bustituted Sunday and Monday. Previous weekend closures have also been connected with the upgrade of the line. There is nothing new about the TfL website failing to correctly show weekend alterations involving NR/LO other than the NLL or the DC line; on more than one occasion the Journey Planner has failed to recognise e.g. that Northumberland Park station has been opened on a Sunday when a Spurs game is on. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Theo wrote:
In uk.railway Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. Are you sure about that? TfL say the closure starts 4 June, and the only LO closure listed for this weekend is Romford to Upminister for Crossrail works. Use the TfL Journey Planner to get from Gospel Oak to Stratford today or tomorrow, and see what route it recommends. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
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GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Recliner writes:
Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. It was open yesterday (Sat 28th), as I took advantage of travelling on it for the first time during my day out in London. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Graham Murray wrote:
Recliner writes: Basil Jet wrote: On 2016\05\27 15:58, Recliner wrote: As I'm sure most people know, the GOBLIN line is soon to be electrified, and there will be partial and complete closures starting from tomorrow. No, another week yet. No, it's closed for the whole three-day Bank holiday weekend starting tomorrow, as part of the project. It was open yesterday (Sat 28th), as I took advantage of travelling on it for the first time during my day out in London. Ah, that's interesting. I'm sure I'd read somewhere that it was closed the whole weekend (I'd wanted to travel on Monday). Did you share my impression that the 172s look and sound in very good condition? They seemed almost showroom fresh. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
Recliner writes:
Did you share my impression that the 172s look and sound in very good condition? They seemed almost showroom fresh. Yes, they did seem almost showroom fresh. |
GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
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GOBLIN 172s: where do they go during their hols?
On 2016-05-27 23:24:53 +0000, Recliner said:
That's the situation when the line reopens in February. The work won't be finished and the lines energised for at least another four months, during which time ....they will get nicked and sold for scrap. Madness. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the @ to reply. |
I've said before that on this route the three stations
at which large numbers board and alight are Barking, Blackhorse Road and Gospel Oak. Now that the truncated service is operating between South Tottenham and Gospel Oak, two of those stations are not generating any custom. I travelled from Gospel Oak to South Tottenham today in the early afternoon. The train was almost empty. At South Tottenham four passengers alighted. |
From 22.00 hours tonight until early on Monday morning,
Holloway Road will be closed to facilitate replacing the road bridge at Upper Holloway Station. In the Leyton/Leytonstone area there is little evidence of any progress being made with this electrification project. I hope it's still on schedule and will be completed by the end of February but I'm beginning to have doubts. No masts and no overhead cables are to be seen but plenty of sturdy vegetation is sprouting from railway brickwork. Network Rail really should do something about this. Allowing brickwork to be damaged in this way constitutes negligence. |
Ah! A sign of progress. The first mast - goalpost and
cross bar format - has been installed at Leyton Midland Road Station. Just one, all by itself. And the line is scheduled to re-open in eight weeks time. |
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