On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
Mark wrote:
I hope they disappear sooner than that. At least supposedly no more are being
built, although I can't find a reference for that right now.

I doubt Kahn will finance any more of them.

Who'd buy one though? Plenty of ex-London buses have ended up elsewhere, often
with the middle door removed. Where would want some over-long greenhouses with
not just one unwanted door but two, and an unwanted staircase too!

Everything about them is awful. I can't think of a single redeeming feature.

They do look quite nice. But thats about it IMO. Hardly a reason for the 350K
a pop price tag.

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Spud

Mark wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 09:28:12 UTC+1, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:37:58 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417

I assume this means the rear platform doors will now always be closed
between stops, obviating one of the (small) benefits of this vehicle?

It obviates the only remaining benefit given their hybrid systems seem to be a
miserable failure too. Hopefully in 10 years or so they'll be sold on and
some standard buses - whether hybrid or pure electric who knows - will be
bought instead for considerably less.

I hope they disappear sooner than that. At least supposedly no more are being
built, although I can't find a reference for that right now.

No more are to be ordered, but I think the last order, placed this January,
is still being built. At least the last batch have cleaner Euro 6 engines.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...d-of-boris-bus

It's been a long time since any Labour politician was
concerned to preserve proper, decently paying jobs for
working people with minimal formal education.

A major reason people like me loathe and despise the
modern Labour Party.

On Monday, 11 July 2016 16:37:53 UTC+1, Someone Somewhere wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417

I assume this means the rear platform doors will now always be closed
between stops, obviating one of the (small) benefits of this vehicle?

This bus will now be free to most members of the public. Quite handy in cold weather if you have no money and no ticket. You can travel Pimlico to Hampstead and back again all day long for nothing.

Offramp wrote:

On Monday, 11 July 2016 16:37:53 UTC+1, Someone Somewhere wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417

I assume this means the rear platform doors will now always be
closed between stops, obviating one of the (small) benefits of this
vehicle?

This bus will now be free to most members of the public. Quite handy
in cold weather if you have no money and no ticket. You can travel
Pimlico to Hampstead and back again all day long for nothing.

The conductors didn't check tickets anyway.

Peter Smyth

Peter Smyth wrote:
Offramp wrote:

On Monday, 11 July 2016 16:37:53 UTC+1, Someone Somewhere wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417

I assume this means the rear platform doors will now always be
closed between stops, obviating one of the (small) benefits of this
vehicle?

This bus will now be free to most members of the public. Quite handy
in cold weather if you have no money and no ticket. You can travel
Pimlico to Hampstead and back again all day long for nothing.

The conductors didn't check tickets anyway.

They weren't even called conductors. But their presence did mean that most
people boarding at the rear platform did touch in. But no-one checks that
people boarding through the middle door touch in, so I'd have thought fare
evasion was already much greater on these buses than normal two-door buses.

I often hear then reminding people to touch in, whatever door they use.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:45:34 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
They weren't even called conductors. But their presence did mean that most
people boarding at the rear platform did touch in. But no-one checks that
people boarding through the middle door touch in, so I'd have thought fare
evasion was already much greater on these buses than normal two-door buses.

Which is ironic given one of Boris' reasons for ditching the bendy buses was
the fare evasion aspect.

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Spud

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:16:53 +0200
Robin9 wrote:
'Recliner[_3_ Wrote:
;156739']On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:37:58 +0100, Someone Somewhere
wrote:
-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417

I assume this means the rear platform doors will now always be closed
between stops, obviating one of the (small) benefits of this vehicle?-

It's interesting to compare this with the doo-doos on GTR. On the
buses, 300 employees in a safety role are being made redundant by a
Labour mayor to save money.


It's been a long time since any Labour politician was
concerned to preserve proper, decently paying jobs for
working people with minimal formal education.

They are concerned - so long as those people are foreign. Same with the other
parties. Endless talk about how wonderful immigrants are for the country
without addressing the question of why so many are filling jobs that up until
only 10 or 15 years ago would have been mostly filled by brits. Reason? The
drop in wages in real terms and zero hours contracts with the minimum wage
being a sticking plaster sop to stop then dropping through the floor. If
you've got a family and rent/mortgage to pay you can no longer afford to have
a job in construction (for example) while Pavel and his mates living 5 to
a house can.

A major reason people like me loathe and despise the
modern Labour Party.

And why Ukip stole so many labour votes. Neither wing of the labour party
gets it though. Corbyn and the left are still fighting the battles of the 1970s
and 80s and the moderates are still stuck in the Blairite late 90s. Neither
side says anything of interest or relevance to the proverbial man in the
street.

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Spud

In message , at 08:46:53 on Wed, 13 Jul
2016, d remarked:

If you've got a family and rent/mortgage to pay you can no longer
afford to have a job in construction (for example)

I thought plumbers were paid quite well.

Round here, the work the locals have 'lost' is crop-picking.
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Roland Perry