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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:13:49 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:43:15 on Tue, 11 Oct 2016, d remarked: If the teething troubles they had with the JLE were correctly reported, most of the PED-synching is down to the driver's skills, rather than technology. Its ATO. What is, JLE or the Battersea extension? Both now, but not the Jubilee when the JLE with its PEDs first opened. However there still needs to be something to tell the platform doors to open when the train doors open and I assume its some bit of NFC kit on the train. If ATO doesn't know where the train is, just as well as that sort of NFC device, I'm astonished. I think it's the signalling that operates the doors, and of course it knows exactly where the train is. But I'm not sure how it knows to close the PEDs. Or open them given that its still down to the driver to press the open button AFAIK. I doubt a signal is sent all the way to the main signalling control system then all the way back to the doors to tell them to open because if the train is being driven in emergency manual mode because of an ATO failure then those platform doors won't be opening anytime soon. -- Spud |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:13:49 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:43:15 on Tue, 11 Oct 2016, d remarked: If the teething troubles they had with the JLE were correctly reported, most of the PED-synching is down to the driver's skills, rather than technology. Its ATO. What is, JLE or the Battersea extension? Both now, but not the Jubilee when the JLE with its PEDs first opened. However there still needs to be something to tell the platform doors to open when the train doors open and I assume its some bit of NFC kit on the train. If ATO doesn't know where the train is, just as well as that sort of NFC device, I'm astonished. I think it's the signalling that operates the doors, and of course it knows exactly where the train is. But I'm not sure how it knows to close the PEDs. Or open them given that its still down to the driver to press the open button AFAIK. I doubt a signal is sent all the way to the main signalling control system then all the way back to the doors to tell them to open because if the train is being driven in emergency manual mode because of an ATO failure then those platform doors won't be opening anytime soon. Presumably the signalling system knows the train has stopped in the right place to open the doors. Perhaps the on-board ATO also tells the signalling system if the doors are open/closed, while the signalling controls whether the doors can open? There's presumably a manual override for emergencies. |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:02:08 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:52:31 on Tue, 11 Oct 2016, d remarked: It's the @gioia. part I'm interested in. Is that user-specific, or do all aioe.org users get the same hostname? You think every user who posts on this site gets a unique host to themselves? That's what I'm asking, numbskull. Yes, all the thousands of users who use aioe get a server to themselves! For free! I don't need to produce anything pal. If you don't understand usenet thats not my problem. And you don't apparently understand NNTP posting hostnames. Uh huh. If you'd bothered to do a lookup you'd have realised gioia.aioe.org isn't even a valid DNS address, presumably gioia is either an internal server name or just some ident they use. But what would a numbskull know eh? Why don't you try posting from the site yourself and see what pops up. Since you're such an expert on NNTP you don't need to reconfigure your client, you can do it just using telnet. -- Spud |
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In message , at 08:43:44 on Wed, 12 Oct
2016, d remarked: On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:02:08 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:52:31 on Tue, 11 Oct 2016, d remarked: It's the @gioia. part I'm interested in. Is that user-specific, or do all aioe.org users get the same hostname? You think every user who posts on this site gets a unique host to themselves? That's what I'm asking, numbskull. Yes, all the thousands of users who use aioe get a server to themselves! For free! It'd be a virtual server, obviously. I don't need to produce anything pal. If you don't understand usenet thats not my problem. And you don't apparently understand NNTP posting hostnames. Uh huh. If you'd bothered to do a lookup you'd have realised gioia.aioe.org isn't even a valid DNS address, presumably gioia is either an internal server name or just some ident they use. Hosts don't have to be globally reachable, and none of this hostname stuff is unique to nntp. Anyway, looking closer at your headers the posting-hostname is random looking string.user.gioia.aioe.org But what would a numbskull know eh? The difference between a server and a virtual server? Why don't you try posting from the site yourself and see what pops up. Since you're such an expert on NNTP you don't need to reconfigure your client, you can do it just using telnet. Why reinvent the wheel when I can ask ? -- Roland Perry |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:08:22 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 08:43:44 on Wed, 12 Oct Yes, all the thousands of users who use aioe get a server to themselves! For free! It'd be a virtual server, obviously. Ah, mais oui! Everytime someone posts something they start up an entire VM + NNTP server just to make sure the posting host field is different. Why didn't I think of that?? Anyway, looking closer at your headers the posting-hostname is random looking string.user.gioia.aioe.org Fascinating. But what would a numbskull know eh? The difference between a server and a virtual server? You're right, I have no idea. When I was a sys admin I just used to wing it. Why don't you try posting from the site yourself and see what pops up. Since you're such an expert on NNTP you don't need to reconfigure your client, you can do it just using telnet. Why reinvent the wheel when I can ask ? Why do you assume I am conversant with the operational setup of a free news service based in the netherlands? Interestingly through your domain name I've just found out your wifes name, your home address and what car you drive. Thats not a clever thing to allow these days. -- Spud |
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"Offramp" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 11:30:38 UTC+1, wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:47:09 -0500 wrote: In article , d () wrote: Just curious - does anyone know what form the architecture will take, will it be like the JLE, crossrail or something completely new? Also I presume the 2 new stations will have platform doors too which I imagine will mean some new kit on the trains - unless its already installed. I doubt that platform doors will be fitted. There might be passive provision but doors on just 2 Northern Line stations doesn't look likely to me. I always thought they were an expensive white elephant that served little purpose but TfL seems to like them - they're going in on crossrail - so I wouldn't put it past them to install just on 2 stations. I don't know how useful they are, either. They do keep the track very clean. The track at London Bridge looks almost like new. That'll be because, in railway terms, it is :-) |
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