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Croydon tram overturned
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658
At a rough guess I'd say it went around a curve way too fast. -- Spud |
Croydon tram overturned
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:14:43 +0000, Richard J. wrote:
d wrote on 09 Nov 2016 at 10:20 ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658 At a rough guess I'd say it went around a curve way too fast. BBC now saying there has been "some loss of life". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658 "Croydon tram derailment: Driver arrested after crash leaves 'up to eight dead' and over 50 in hospital" says the Evening Standard http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3391446.html The Guardian are quoting a TfL source as saying "the incident happened inside a tunnel" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ped-40-injured |
Croydon tram overturned
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:14:43 +0000
"Richard J." wrote: wrote on 09 Nov 2016 at 10:20 ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658 At a rough guess I'd say it went around a curve way too fast. BBC now saying there has been "some loss of life". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658 Yeah :( "The cause of the crash is unclear." I would say its pretty clear looking at the picture. Detailed going around a curve or the a set of points too fast. The fact they've nicked the driver I suspect means they're thinking the same thing. Or he's failed a breath test. -- Spud |
Croydon tram overturned
In message , at 13:25:24 on
Wed, 9 Nov 2016, David Walters remarked: The Guardian are quoting a TfL source as saying "the incident happened inside a tunnel" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ped-40-injured Which suggests it was running north towards Sandilands Station and something had happened inside the tunnel. Frustrating that there's no definite reporting of its direction. -- Roland Perry |
Croydon tram overturned
In message , at 13:56:48 on Wed, 9 Nov
2016, Roland Perry remarked: The Guardian are quoting a TfL source as saying "the incident happened inside a tunnel" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ped-40-injured Which suggests it was running north towards Sandilands Station and something had happened inside the tunnel. Frustrating that there's no definite reporting of its direction. Daily Mail now reporting: 'It happened on a sharp bend on the approach to Sandilands tram stop.' Which is consistent with another comment: 'As we looked down on the tram it was on its right hand side' -- Roland Perry |
Croydon tram overturned
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:28:55 PM UTC, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:56:48 on Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Roland Perry remarked: The Guardian are quoting a TfL source as saying "the incident happened inside a tunnel" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ped-40-injured Which suggests it was running north towards Sandilands Station and something had happened inside the tunnel. Frustrating that there's no definite reporting of its direction. Daily Mail now reporting: 'It happened on a sharp bend on the approach to Sandilands tram stop.' Which is consistent with another comment: 'As we looked down on the tram it was on its right hand side' -- Roland Perry From Sandilands the track descends steeply and splits in two, where it joins the route of the former Woodside and South Croydon Railway. By the look of the overhead shot, it was possibly taking the righthand track and came off. Or was it coming the other way and took the corner too fast? If it wasn't human error, then perhaps brake failure? I'm not familiar with braking systems on that system. Neill |
Croydon tram overturned
On 09.11.16 15:57, wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:28:55 PM UTC, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:56:48 on Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Roland Perry remarked: The Guardian are quoting a TfL source as saying "the incident happened inside a tunnel" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ped-40-injured Which suggests it was running north towards Sandilands Station and something had happened inside the tunnel. Frustrating that there's no definite reporting of its direction. Daily Mail now reporting: 'It happened on a sharp bend on the approach to Sandilands tram stop.' Which is consistent with another comment: 'As we looked down on the tram it was on its right hand side' -- Roland Perry From Sandilands the track descends steeply and splits in two, where it joins the route of the former Woodside and South Croydon Railway. By the look of the overhead shot, it was possibly taking the righthand track and came off. Or was it coming the other way and took the corner too fast? If it wasn't human error, then perhaps brake failure? I'm not familiar with braking systems on that system. Neill Electric, combined with electromagnetic, AFAIK. |
Croydon tram overturned
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Croydon tram overturned
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... The fog of war continues to waft across the scene. -- Roland Perry From RAIBC: "The tram was operating an 'inbound' service from New Addington to Wimbledon via Croydon town centre. Sandilands Junction is the point where inbound trams from the Beckenham Junction/Elmers End and New Addington routes converge, shortly before they arrive at Sandilands tram stop (to the east of Croydon town centre). Trams approaching from the New Addington direction have to negotiate a sharp, left-hand curve with a speed limit of 20 km/h (12 mph) before reaching the junction. The derailment occurred on the curve and initial indications suggest that the tram was travelling at a significantly higher speed than is permitted." PA |
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