The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

In message , at 13:41:38 on Sat, 21 Jan
2017, tim... remarked:

If anyone's at a loose end next week there's a 48-seat
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**COUGH**
A319 corporate jet
flying Sydney to Lisbon next week, for an 'up to 75% off' price of
EUR110,000.

I'm guessing that's the fuel and crew cost.

so a full price of close to half a million

Actually the list price for that flight is EUR 876,550 and it's an
"empty leg". So someone else must have hired it one-way the
opposite direction.

oh for the whole plane load

I thought you were quoting a per seat price (like the one that
started this thread)

Seriously? You think it costs twenty million to hire a plane for a day!

I didn't really think about it

and in any case didn't know how many seats it had

it could have been 6

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Roland Perry

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

On 21/01/2017 13:11, Recliner wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 13:06:09 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 12:10:52 on
Sat, 21 Jan 2017, Recliner remarked:

If anyone's at a loose end next week there's a 48-seat A319
corporate jet
flying Sydney to Lisbon next week, for an 'up to 75% off' price of
EUR110,000.

I'm guessing that's the fuel and crew cost.

so a full price of close to half a million

Actually the list price for that flight is EUR 876,550 and it's an
"empty leg". So someone else must have hired it one-way the opposite
direction.

oh for the whole plane load

I thought you were quoting a per seat price (like the one that started
this thread)

Seriously? You think it costs twenty million to hire a plane for a day!

They cost "only" $90m new.

Probably a lot less than that in reality: nobody pays the list price
for planes.

I thought most were leased.

Many are, but in which case the leasing company (quite possibly based
in Ireland) paid much less than the list price.


On what basis, that they ordered a bunch of them from the manufacturer?

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

On 2017-01-21 17:21:42 +0000, said:

On what basis, that they ordered a bunch of them from the manufacturer?

On the same basis, presumably, that nobody pays list price for a car either.

Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

The next doomed Stansted NYC business jet
 

Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-01-21 17:21:42 +0000, said:

On what basis, that they ordered a bunch of them from the manufacturer?

On the same basis, presumably, that nobody pays list price for a car either.

The dscounts for airliners are much steeper than even car hire companies
get. For most Airbus and Boeing models, the *discount* on list price is in
the 50-60% range:

https://airinsight.com/2016/05/16/ai...ist-vs-market/

So that A319 will most likely have cost under $40m, rather than $90m.