In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

Not what Norway think. Why would we be different?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 12:11:03
on Wed, 1 Feb 2017, remarked:

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

Not what Norway think.

http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligenc...ustice/norway-
and-switzerland/

Why would we be different?

If we were the same, it wouldn't be a Brexit in any sense that was
campaigned for.
--
Roland Perry

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

Not what Norway think.

that's not what I read

All the negatives of being in, but none of the positives

sorry, can't find a link

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 16:35:18 on Wed, 1 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:
I have heard on the radio more than once that legally we could remain
inside the EFTA but still leave the EU since the former was a seperate
agreement.

EFTA is Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. Down in the
noise level.

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

well no

You know you don't have to tell me that ;-)


with Liechtenstein, (presumably due to it insignificant size) having an
exemption


And most informed opinion says Norway would veto us joining.

Why?

It doesn't do anything as "a block" that our size would dominate

Allegedly Norway thinks we would (dominate).

If we only get one vote, how?

That we export 10 times more to the rest of the world then they do may
affect them adversely, is irrelevant

We are going to be exporting 10 times more whether we are in their little
club or not

tim

On 01.02.2017 9:00 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 16:35:18 on Wed, 1 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:
I have heard on the radio more than once that legally we could remain
inside the EFTA but still leave the EU since the former was a seperate
agreement.

EFTA is Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. Down in the
noise level.

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

well no

You know you don't have to tell me that ;-)


with Liechtenstein, (presumably due to it insignificant size) having an
exemption


And most informed opinion says Norway would veto us joining.

Why?

It doesn't do anything as "a block" that our size would dominate

Allegedly Norway thinks we would (dominate).

If we only get one vote, how?

That we export 10 times more to the rest of the world then they do may
affect them adversely, is irrelevant

We are going to be exporting 10 times more whether we are in their little
club or not

And that attitude is exactly why they wouldn't want the UK in their "little
club". You're arrogant, patronising ****s as a nation, who want your own
way at all times and as soon as there's a suggestion you might not get it
is all "we don't want to be in your little club anyway, nyaaaaaa."

From the sick man of Europe to the spoiled child of Europe. Progress.

"Clank" wrote in message
news
On 01.02.2017 9:00 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 16:35:18 on Wed, 1 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:
I have heard on the radio more than once that legally we could remain
inside the EFTA but still leave the EU since the former was a seperate
agreement.

EFTA is Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. Down in the
noise level.

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

well no

You know you don't have to tell me that ;-)


with Liechtenstein, (presumably due to it insignificant size) having an
exemption


And most informed opinion says Norway would veto us joining.

Why?

It doesn't do anything as "a block" that our size would dominate

Allegedly Norway thinks we would (dominate).

If we only get one vote, how?

That we export 10 times more to the rest of the world then they do may
affect them adversely, is irrelevant

We are going to be exporting 10 times more whether we are in their little
club or not

And that attitude is exactly why they wouldn't want the UK in their
"little

I think you completely misunderstood my meaning of "we are going to be"

It's not a threat

It is as it is

Or do you expect us to stop making Jaguar cars, RR engines and wings for
Airbus planes, just to please you?

tim

In message , at 19:00:11 on Wed, 1 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:

And most informed opinion says Norway would veto us joining.

Why?

It doesn't do anything as "a block" that our size would dominate

Allegedly Norway thinks we would (dominate).

If we only get one vote, how?

You'll have to do your own homework on that.
--
Roland Perry

On 01.02.2017 9:19 PM, tim... wrote:


"Clank" wrote in message
news
On 01.02.2017 9:00 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 16:35:18 on Wed, 1 Feb 2017,
tim... remarked:
I have heard on the radio more than once that legally we could remain
inside the EFTA but still leave the EU since the former was a seperate
agreement.

EFTA is Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland. Down in the
noise level.

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

well no

You know you don't have to tell me that ;-)


with Liechtenstein, (presumably due to it insignificant size) having an
exemption


And most informed opinion says Norway would veto us joining.

Why?

It doesn't do anything as "a block" that our size would dominate

Allegedly Norway thinks we would (dominate).

If we only get one vote, how?

That we export 10 times more to the rest of the world then they do may
affect them adversely, is irrelevant

We are going to be exporting 10 times more whether we are in their little
club or not

And that attitude is exactly why they wouldn't want the UK in their
"little

I think you completely misunderstood my meaning of "we are going to be"

It's not a threat

It is as it is

Or do you expect us to stop making Jaguar cars, RR engines and wings for
Airbus planes, just to please you?

Of those three, only one is controlled by a UK company. Which is a
basketcase in need of turnaround, oddly enough.

I suspect threatening Norway with "but who's going to sell you Jaguars, eh?"
is hardly going to leave them quaking in their boots, the French will be
positively delighted at the "who will make wings for Airbus" question, and
I'll wager the "free" trade deal you do with the US will **** RR way more
than it helps them.

But at least you won't be in any little clubs.

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 12:11:03
on Wed, 1 Feb 2017, remarked:

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

Not what Norway think.


http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligenc...norway-and-swi
tzerland/

An anti-EU group, I see. Norway and Switzerland are in the Schengen zone
which is not part of this discussion.

Why would we be different?

If we were the same, it wouldn't be a Brexit in any sense that was
campaigned for.

Not a universal view, especially as expressed before 23rd June 2016.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (tim...)
wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

Membership of EFTA requires remaining in the SM with FoM

So not really a Brexit at all.

Not what Norway think.

that's not what I read

All the negatives of being in, but none of the positives

sorry, can't find a link

I didn't say they liked it, just that they know they are NOT in the EU.

--
Colin Rosenstiel