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In message , at 13:01:52 on Sat, 25 Feb
2017, tim... remarked: the auto-top-up that works for me is 5 pounds added when it goes below 5 pounds Only £20 or £40 is available currently, and the trigger is £10. yes that's the point! How can a £5 auto-topup work for you when it doesn't exist? -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 13:01:52 on Sat, 25 Feb 2017, tim... remarked: the auto-top-up that works for me is 5 pounds added when it goes below 5 pounds Only £20 or £40 is available currently, and the trigger is £10. yes that's the point! How can a £5 auto-topup work for you when it doesn't exist? there's nothing in my post that says it exists tim |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:47:25 +0000
Neil Williams wrote: On 2017-02-25 12:14:53 +0000, Roland Perry said: Only £20 or £40 is available currently, and the trigger is £10. For anyone with a contactless card it's kind of losing its role anyway. I cashed all my Oysters in and now just use contactless. Gotta love contactless. Chip and pin arrives - there being a damn good reason for the PIN - then the banks decide they'll get more transactions if they remove the PIN and pretend its not really needed after all. So why do I need one if I put the card in the slot but not if I use contactless? What exactly is the qualitative difference? Answer: there isn't one. But the banks have convinced suckers theres no security risk with contactless. Ah well, you can't educate pork. Must be a field day for card thieves. -- Spud |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 19:16:49 +0000
Neil Williams wrote: On 2017-02-25 18:59:08 +0000, d said: Gotta love contactless. Chip and pin arrives - there being a damn good reason for the PIN - then the banks decide they'll get more transactions if they remove the PIN and pretend its not really needed after all. So why do I need one if I put the card in the slot but not if I use contactless? What exactly is the qualitative difference? Answer: there isn't one. There's a *quantitative* difference, namely the £30 cap, and the fact that if you do more than N transactions in a row the PIN will be called for. For various values of N. Yes, thieves could nick a wallet and go around spending about 5 x £30 (£150) with it before they had issues. But that's not going to, er, break the bank. And if it did happen, the end customer is not liable. Oh sure. All you have to do is get a crime number from plod then sit on an 0845 number going through half a dozen menus to eventually get through to some gimp from india who you need to convince that you're not trying to commit fraud. And then you might get your money back next week. Great so long as you don't need it in the meantime. It's basically making cards more of an effective replacement for cash, and I encourage that, as cash is a faff (and encourages the black market etc). In what universe is cash a faff?? -- Spud |
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wrote on 25 Feb 2017 at 02:29 ...
In article , (Richard J.) wrote: wrote on 24 Feb 2017 at 07:40 ... In article , (Matthew Dickinson) wrote: From this April it should be possible to pick up online Oyster purchases within 30 minutes, and without having to nominate a particular station. It will also be possible to pick up purchases on buses. TfL are also planning to introduce an Oyster app to complement this improvement. Details are at: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...ttach/3/Issue% 2095%20Redacted.pdf Hooray! The current rules are an utter pain for infrequent out-of-London users like me. I got caught out by the evening deadline too once, topping up for a planned journey the next day. Living in Cambridge I can't even be sure where I'll start an Oyster journey. If you used Auto Top-up, you wouldn't have that problem. I don't use Oyster enough to justify lending TfL so much money. But if "the current rules are an utter pain", there must be some value in a scheme which avoids the pain. So how much interest would you lose by lending TfL £20? Isn't it worth it to avoid the utter pain? -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote: wrote on 25 Feb 2017 at 02:29 ... In article , (Richard J.) wrote: wrote on 24 Feb 2017 at 07:40 ... In article , (Matthew Dickinson) wrote: From this April it should be possible to pick up online Oyster purchases within 30 minutes, and without having to nominate a particular station. It will also be possible to pick up purchases on buses. TfL are also planning to introduce an Oyster app to complement this improvement. Details are at: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...60/attach/3/Is sue%2095%20Redacted.pdf Hooray! The current rules are an utter pain for infrequent out-of-London users like me. I got caught out by the evening deadline too once, topping up for a planned journey the next day. Living in Cambridge I can't even be sure where I'll start an Oyster journey. If you used Auto Top-up, you wouldn't have that problem. I don't use Oyster enough to justify lending TfL so much money. But if "the current rules are an utter pain", there must be some value in a scheme which avoids the pain. So how much interest would you lose by lending TfL £20? Isn't it worth it to avoid the utter pain? They rules are not that difficult to work around, especially now I go to King's Cross so much less. I used to have to ensure I kept a balance big enough to get through the gates there to avoid the hideous queues at the ticket machines. It's just easier to top up from the comfort of my home though. More often than not I have my bike with me and don't use the tube. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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