Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements now?

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

wrote in message ...
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements
now?

you need to see the thread:

"10 milllion quid to turn the Metropolitan curve into a siding for one
train"

on ur

tim

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On 05-May-17 4:00 PM, tim... wrote:


wrote in message ...
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing X line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock
movements now?

you need to see the thread:

"10 milllion quid to turn the Metropolitan curve into a siding for one
train"

on ur

tim




The Metropolitain Curve does not go to Blackfriars, but to Cannon Street.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

I think these https://binged.it/2pU46wi are the tracks the OP is talking about.

Wouldn't have Thameslink services from Blackfriars to London Bridge used these tracks before the extensive constructions works at LBG began in 2015?

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

Jo H wrote:
I think these https://binged.it/2pU46wi are the tracks the OP is talking about.

Wouldn't have Thameslink services from Blackfriars to London Bridge used
these tracks before the extensive constructions works at LBG began in 2015?


Yes. That's a very old, pre-Shard image, of course. I'm amazed Bing still
has such old images. Here's Google's slightly newer version (which is still
quite out-of-date):
,19z/data=!3m1!1e3

Here's some later pics I took shortly after the new viaduct was brought
into use and the link to Blackfriars was cut:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7663213445225/

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On 07-May-17 5:41 PM, d wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.


When you said the Charing Cross line, I thought you meant Blackfriars to
Charring Cross

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

Presumably you mean the (currently unused) link from Blackfriars to London
Bridge, which used to share the tracks from Charing X to London Bridge?

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Sun, 7 May 2017 19:59:23 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements
now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

Presumably you mean the (currently unused) link from Blackfriars to London
Bridge, which used to share the tracks from Charing X to London Bridge?

Yup. Just wondering what it was/is used for.

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2017 19:59:23 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements
now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

Presumably you mean the (currently unused) link from Blackfriars to London
Bridge, which used to share the tracks from Charing X to London Bridge?

Yup. Just wondering what it was/is used for.

It's the main Thameslink line.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:21:53 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2017 19:59:23 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements
now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

Presumably you mean the (currently unused) link from Blackfriars to London
Bridge, which used to share the tracks from Charing X to London Bridge?

Yup. Just wondering what it was/is used for.

It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:21:53 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2017 19:59:23 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2017 23:19:16 +0100
Tony Dragon wrote:
On 05-May-17 3:45 PM, d wrote:
When was there last a service that went through both these stations? I
noticed
theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the charing X
line
but the tracks were rusty and there were some road-rail maintenance
machines
sitting on it. Is it just for occasional out of service stock movements
now?


Are you sure you mean Blackfriars?

Yes. Theres a 3 track chord linking the line from blackfriars to the
charing-x line. Look on google earth.

Presumably you mean the (currently unused) link from Blackfriars to London
Bridge, which used to share the tracks from Charing X to London Bridge?

Yup. Just wondering what it was/is used for.

It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

Of course it's the main Thameslink line. Surely even you must know that?

Or perhaps you've yet to hear about the little modification project at
London Bridge?

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:56:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

Of course it's the main Thameslink line. Surely even you must know that?

I've never used thameslink south of the river so I have no idea of its route
other than it runs to brighton.

Or perhaps you've yet to hear about the little modification project at
London Bridge?

So presumably there's currently no thameslink service to london bridge and
hasn't been for quite some time.

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On 2017\05\08 10:06, d wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:56:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

Of course it's the main Thameslink line. Surely even you must know that?

I've never used thameslink south of the river so I have no idea of its route
other than it runs to brighton.

Or perhaps you've yet to hear about the little modification project at
London Bridge?

So presumably there's currently no thameslink service to london bridge and
hasn't been for quite some time.


Not to/from the north. There are "Thameslink" trains between Brighton
and London Bridge.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Mon, 8 May 2017 12:55:53 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\08 10:06, d wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:56:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

Of course it's the main Thameslink line. Surely even you must know that?

I've never used thameslink south of the river so I have no idea of its route
other than it runs to brighton.

Or perhaps you've yet to hear about the little modification project at
London Bridge?

So presumably there's currently no thameslink service to london bridge and
hasn't been for quite some time.


Not to/from the north. There are "Thameslink" trains between Brighton
and London Bridge.

Ah ok. I realise there's been a bit of chaos at london bridge but isn't that
just down to platforms or did they close some through lines too? If not why
couldn't thameslink continue to run through london bridge without stopping?

--
Spud

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Monday, 8 May 2017 13:48:14 UTC+1, wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2017 12:55:53 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\08 10:06, d wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2017 08:56:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
It's the main Thameslink line.

It can't be , its out of use.

Of course it's the main Thameslink line. Surely even you must know that?

I've never used thameslink south of the river so I have no idea of its route
other than it runs to brighton.

Or perhaps you've yet to hear about the little modification project at
London Bridge?

So presumably there's currently no thameslink service to london bridge and
hasn't been for quite some time.


Not to/from the north. There are "Thameslink" trains between Brighton
and London Bridge.

Ah ok. I realise there's been a bit of chaos at london bridge but isn't that
just down to platforms or did they close some through lines too? If not why
couldn't thameslink continue to run through london bridge without stopping?

The lines you refer to were used by Thameslink for services to / from Brighton via London Bridge. They are temporarily out of service while the track alignment between Waterloo East and London Bridge is doubled and London Bridge station is rebuilt. The end result will allow a double track route from Blackfriars to the Brighton Main Line tracks south of London Bridge station. In the past there was just a single track junction from the ramp down from Blackfriars on to the lines to / from Charing Cross.

The future scenario (largely in place now) has put two new tracks used by Charing Cross trains. This leaves two full tracks for future use by Thameslink. They will also have two dedicated tracks and platforms at London Bridge and then they continue to a new flyover east of London Bridge that lifts the Thameslink route over the suburban tracks to New Cross. This means a vastly more frequent Thameslink service can be run through London Bridge. There should be 16 trains per hours via LB and 8 running south of BF via Elephant and Castle.

At present Thameslink through services are routed through suburban tracks in South London towards Croydon as well as a residual half hourly service that runs from the terminal platforms at London Bridge.

Thameslink through services over the old connecting tracks to Blackfriars resume in 2018 and built up to a full service from Dec 2018. The remaining project milestones are Jan, May and Dec 2018 in terms of restoring services and stopping patterns at or through London Bridge. That applies to South Eastern as well as Thameslink services that have been subject to extensive changes during the rebuild.

At the moment the northern end of London Bridge station is being rebuilt and trains from the Greenwich line to Cannon St are not stopping as the platforms are all being rebuilt.

HTH
--
Paul C
via Google

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

I wonder how many people have been caught out by that London Bridge to Victoria service.

Some poor stranded commuter, desperate to get to Victoria, and he sees it appear on the destination board. He jumps on!! What could be simplon?

Six hours later, bloated and dehydrated, he arrives at Victoria.

Victoria at 5am resembles a cross between Threads and The Equaliser.

He asks two cleaners how to get to West Croydon. All he hears is laughter, laughter, laughter.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

Offramp wrote:
I wonder how many people have been caught out by that London Bridge to Victoria service.

Some poor stranded commuter, desperate to get to Victoria, and he sees it
appear on the destination board. He jumps on!! What could be simplon?

Six hours later, bloated and dehydrated, he arrives at Victoria.

Victoria at 5am resembles a cross between Threads and The Equaliser.

He asks two cleaners how to get to West Croydon. All he hears is
laughter, laughter, laughter.

Does that service still operate? I thought the LO South London line
service replaced it.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On Monday, 22 May 2017 22:28:13 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Offramp wrote:
I wonder how many people have been caught out by that London Bridge to Victoria service.

Some poor stranded commuter, desperate to get to Victoria, and he sees it
appear on the destination board. He jumps on!! What could be simplon?

Six hours later, bloated and dehydrated, he arrives at Victoria.

Victoria at 5am resembles a cross between Threads and The Equaliser.

He asks two cleaners how to get to West Croydon. All he hears is
laughter, laughter, laughter.

Does that service still operate? I thought the LO South London line
service replaced it.

The old South London Line service was replaced in part by the LO service to Clapham Junction. There is, I believe, another LB to Vic service via Crystal Palace and elsewhere.

--
Paul C
via Google

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

On 2017\05\22 22:24, Recliner wrote:
Offramp wrote:
I wonder how many people have been caught out by that London Bridge to Victoria service.

Some poor stranded commuter, desperate to get to Victoria, and he sees it
appear on the destination board. He jumps on!! What could be simplon?

Six hours later, bloated and dehydrated, he arrives at Victoria.

Victoria at 5am resembles a cross between Threads and The Equaliser.

He asks two cleaners how to get to West Croydon. All he hears is
laughter, laughter, laughter.

Does that service still operate? I thought the LO South London line
service replaced it.


The direct (hahaha) service via Denmark Hill got replaced by the
Overground. The service from London Bridge - Sydenham - Crystal Palace -
Victoria still runs, hence the six hour comment above.

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Monday, 22 May 2017 22:28:13 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
Offramp wrote:
I wonder how many people have been caught out by that London Bridge to
Victoria service. Some poor stranded commuter, desperate to get to
Victoria, and he sees it appear on the destination board. He jumps
on!! What could be simplon?

Six hours later, bloated and dehydrated, he arrives at Victoria.

Victoria at 5am resembles a cross between Threads and The Equaliser.

He asks two cleaners how to get to West Croydon. All he hears is
laughter, laughter, laughter.

Does that service still operate? I thought the LO South London line
service replaced it.

The old South London Line service was replaced in part by the LO
service to Clapham Junction. There is, I believe, another LB to Vic
service via Crystal Palace and elsewhere.

Indeed so.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Blackfriars - London Bridge
 

Basil Jet writes:

The direct (hahaha) service via Denmark Hill got replaced by the
Overground. The service from London Bridge - Sydenham - Crystal Palace
-
Victoria still runs, hence the six hour comment above.

And if some unsuspecting visitor were to catch it all the way using
Oyster PAYG, would they just be charged a Zone 1 fare, considering that
the journey is within the 90 minute maximum zone 1 to Zone 1 time.