On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg

Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if anything?

On 24/06/2017 15:23, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg


Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if
anything?

So they can clean the windscreen?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Basil Jet wrote on 24 Jun 2017 at 15:23 ...
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg

Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if anything?

The line has to be visible by anyone standing at rail level. If the top of the curve at the front of the train is the highest safe level, and if that level was continued round to the side, it would be on the roof and probably not visible from rail level, hence the lower level at the sides. Some other stocks have an upward curve at the front, e.g. class 700, 158, 159.

Railway Group Standard GM/RT2111, Appendix D https://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/standards...%20Iss%201.pdf
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On 23.06.17 20:54, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On 23.06.17 12:29, Basil Jet wrote:

Apparently loads of enthusiasts knew in advance... us Usenauts seem to
be out of the loop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSts1YN3MPc

Can we thus assume that Phase I of Crossrail service has started, with
the first 345 wheels turning in anger?

Well, sort of. They're not using the Elizabeth line branding yet, as the
current route is no different to what it was before the new trains were
introduced, though there's been lots of trackwork. You could have done
exactly the same trip long ago.

And, this isn't even the first Crossrail track to be used: the Stockley
Flyover has that claim to fame.
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/major-milestone-reached-in-the-construction-of-stockley-flyover

So Heathrow Connect's use of the Stockley Flyover from the end of 2014
could be said to be the first phase of Crossrail to have been brought into
use.

And the 345s aren't even phase 2; the Acton diveunder probably gets that
award:
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/201...on-dive-under/

So this latest development might be best described as the third phase of
Crossrail to come into use (unless I've missed out any others!).

When does the 345 run?

On 24.06.17 15:23, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg


Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if
anything?
Rain deflectors?

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

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mber.org, at 19:54:35 on Fri, 23 Jun 2017, Recliner
remarked:
Can we thus assume that Phase I of Crossrail service has started, with
the first 345 wheels turning in anger?

Well, sort of. They're not using the Elizabeth line branding yet, as the
current route is no different to what it was before the new trains were
introduced, though there's been lots of trackwork. You could have done
exactly the same trip long ago.

And, this isn't even the first Crossrail track to be used: the Stockley
Flyover has that claim to fame.

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/arti...hed-in-the-con
struction-of-stockley-flyover

So Heathrow Connect's use of the Stockley Flyover from the end of 2014
could be said to be the first phase of Crossrail to have been brought
into use.

And the 345s aren't even phase 2; the Acton diveunder probably gets that
award:

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/201...ls-critical-ac
ton-dive-under/

So this latest development might be best described as the third phase of
Crossrail to come into use (unless I've missed out any others!).

They've been doing trackwork south of Shenfield station, and it's
possible that some new movements, which that permits, are in service.
But I've not been on site.

I saw a report that the Shenfield track work had been completed recently.
There's also been track work elsewhere on the Liverpool St electric lines
and OHL renewals. What I saw at Ilford looked well overdue, with catenary
that looked to date back to 1949.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 24/06/17 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\23 13:34, d wrote:

I'd love to know what blind ******* designed the ugly front end. It looks
like a disfigured duck.

Now you mention it...

Class 345...
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1nrN9gwvyL.jpg

Orville The Duck...
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg

I see the resemblance. That's the nickname sorted out.

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg


Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if anything?

Isn't it just decorative?

Recliner wrote on 24 Jun 2017 at 23:18 ...
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...ford_depot.jpg


Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if anything?

Isn't it just decorative?

No, it's a warning line to indicate the upper limit of safe working under a live overhead wire. You see them on any train that operates under the wires. See the link I provided earlier.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Recliner wrote on 24 Jun 2017 at 23:18
...
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\06\24 15:20, Basil Jet wrote:

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...rain_arriving_
at_Ilford_depot.jpg


Why does the orange line on the front curve upward? If it's supposed to
represent a safe distance from zap, shouldn't it curve downward if
anything?

Isn't it just decorative?

No, it's a warning line to indicate the upper limit of safe working
under a live overhead wire. You see them on any train that operates
under the wires. See the link I provided earlier.

As far as I can see, you see them on any train whether it operates under the
wires or not.

--
Colin Rosenstiel