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In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? |
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![]() wrote in message ... In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. none, last time I looked |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. -- Spud |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. Manchester, Nottingham and Birmingham trams have all had new track, stations, routes and fleets in the recent past. |
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![]() wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. the problem is that London's spend is skewed by the huge number of people that it has to provide transport for, who don't actually live there tim |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:12:45 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. Manchester, Nottingham and Birmingham trams have all had new track, stations, routes and fleets in the recent past. You rather missed the point. In europe cities the size of brum and manchester generally have a tram system AND a proper metro but until the 90s they didn't even have the trams and nottingham only gots its tram 10 or so years ago! This is a shameful indictment of UK public transport policy by all governments. -- Spud |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:43:04 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. the problem is that London's spend is skewed by the huge number of people that it has to provide transport for, who don't actually live there True, but London taxpayers also contribute heavily to the transport costs in Wales, Scotland and the North of England. |
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![]() "Recliner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:43:04 +0100, "tim..." wrote: wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 02:00:37 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: In article -septembe r.org, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: I think a lot of the Tyne & Wear Metro improvements are locally funded too. What improvements? The ones currently under way. So do they include new network extensions, new stations or new stock, as Manchester Metrolink has repeatedly enjoyed? Not sure there's anywhere left to extend it to that doesn't involve new track or tunneling and that won't happen because its not london. Even as a londoner I think the disparity between the investment the capital gets in transport infrastructure and what other cities get is a disgrace. the problem is that London's spend is skewed by the huge number of people that it has to provide transport for, who don't actually live there True, but London taxpayers also contribute heavily to the transport costs in Wales, Scotland and the North of England. I find it hard to believe that operating subsidy reaches close to London's CapEx advantages tim |
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