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Certes wrote:
On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. |
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-septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...66c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Mark |
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Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ...
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J."
wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. Mark |
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Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 17:01 ...
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J." wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. In what sense is the CamTram a proper railway whereas the Elizabeth Line isn't? They are both networks of several branches with a common underground core. If you asked people which one wasn't a new railway, I think you'd find that most people would choose CamTram on the grounds that it's only a tramway. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On 13/11/2017 15:28, Recliner wrote:
By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. We will probably have flying cars. On the moon. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 13/11/17 16:19, Roland Perry wrote:
Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? I don't think so; I can't see anything about that on the BBC News or Guardian websites... |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:13:27 +0000, "Richard J."
wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 17:01 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J." wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. In what sense is the CamTram a proper railway whereas the Elizabeth Line isn't? The Elizabeth Line is a new part of an existing railway, not a new railway. Mark |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...66c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. Curiously, the flight I'm on is the modern version of the old Ho Chi Minh trail: it's a Vietnam Airlines flight that starts in Hanoi, then flies on to Vientiane and Phnom Penh and finally to Saigon, now rebranded Ho Chi Minh City. Now, of course, it's a comfortable Airbus A321, not a battered truck sheltering on a jungle trail. You get free beers, not free bombs, while you're waiting. |
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