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New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
ERS meeting on 7 April 2004 (Wednesday). Philip Craig, who worked for ten years for the Port Authority Trans Hudson Corporation, will talk on the History of the Hudson Tubes (PATH). Meeting held at the premises of the Model Railway Club, Keen House, Calshot Street, N1, 18.45 for 19.00. Tea and coffee are available before the meeting. (Gleaned from http://www.electric-rly-society.org.uk/activities.htm ) -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
ERS meeting on 7 April 2004 (Wednesday). Philip Craig, who worked for ten years for the Port Authority Trans Hudson Corporation, will talk on the History of the Hudson Tubes (PATH). Meeting held at the premises of the Model Railway Club, Keen House, Calshot Street, N1, 18.45 for 19.00. Tea and coffee are available before the meeting. (Gleaned from http://www.electric-rly-society.org.uk/activities.htm ) For those who would like information on how to get to the meeting by tube, bus or driving from your home or office click on http://www.subjectivise.com/meetmemap/3VJ7Q |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"John Rowland" wrote in message
... ERS meeting on 7 April 2004 (Wednesday). Philip Craig, who worked for ten years for the Port Authority Trans Hudson Corporation, will talk on the History of the Hudson Tubes (PATH). (Gleaned from http://www.electric-rly-society.org.uk/activities.htm ) And very interesting it was too. Apparently the people of New York refer to PATH as "The Tube", a nickname which they never apply to the Subway. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... And very interesting it was too. Apparently the people of New York refer to PATH as "The Tube", a nickname which they never apply to the Subway. The system was at one time known as the 'Hudson Tubes', and tiled mosaic signs can still be found with this name, but I can't remember where. I will be using PATH again two weeks from today, to get to my hotel which is just a couple of minutes walk from Journal Square station. It's a pity that the proposed extension to Newark International airport never happened. As it is you have to take the monorail from the airport terminal (slow), then the NJ Transit main line train to Newark Penn Station (expensive), then Path. Did they mentiion the closed stations? To the best of my knowledge these a The original station in Newark, I can't remember the name. Hudson Terminal, replaced by World Trade Center. parts of this still exist below ground level, and there was talk of using the site for the tempoary World Trade Center station at one time. World Trade Center, slightly to the West of Hodson Terminal. We all know what happened to that. The original 33rd St. station, closed when the large 34th street subway interchange station was built, and the Path line had to be shortened somewhat. The new 33rd street station is between 29th and 30th streets. I don't know if any traces of this still exist in the new subway complex. 28th street. Closed when the new 33rd street station opened, as they were too close. Traces of this station are said to still exist, but I've never been able to see them as I've passed through. 19th street. Closed due to being too close to 14th street and 23rd street, much as with various stations in London, Down Street, South Kentish Town, Old Street, York Road, though this one did manage to stay open for rather longer. It's final closure enabled the service to be speeded up. This station is still clearly visible from passing trains, its distinctive Path columns and arches painted white. There is some sort of newish looking plant on the platforms, but I couldn't make out what its purpose was, ventilation or emergency electrical supply maybe. Closely spaced stations seems to have been common in the U.S. there are many of them on the New York Subway, and, of course, Yerkes, an American, was responsible for much of the London Tube system. Maybe that's why we have several stations which were closed for being too close to others. The conductors on Path, with their caps, look as if they would be more at home on a main-line railroad. They announce each stop with calls of '33rd Street train, 14th next' etc., and, at the terminus, 'No passengers' is their equivilent of our 'All change please'. At Journal Square there is a level crossing, just off the platform ends, which also looks as of it would be more at home on a main line. Its barriers lower for each train to pass, but it doesn't seem to lead anywhere! Hoboken is interesting, with its views across the Hudson to Manhattan, and its fine old copper clad ferry terminal building, long closed and now in poor condition, but to be restored. The waiting room of the main line station has also been restored, and reminds me of the Great Hall at the old Euston. |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
On 08/04/2004 22:05, in article ,
"Stephen Furley" wrote: The original station in Newark, I can't remember the name. Park Place, IIRC. In the 70s, the swing-bridge which carried the H&M across the Passaic River en route to Park Place was still extant. It had two levels with RR tracks on both - the H&M was on the upper level. Hoboken is interesting, with its views across the Hudson to Manhattan, and its fine old copper clad ferry terminal building, long closed and now in poor condition, but to be restored. The waiting room of the main line station has also been restored, and reminds me of the Great Hall at the old Euston. In the 70s, there were two large-scale models of steam locomotives in the waiting room - one in Erie livery, the other painted for DL&W; are they still there ?. One station which changed name; Pavonia Avenue. Was originally Erie (before the Erie trains were rerouted to Hoboken). Look carefully at the decoration on the pillars holding the roof up, and you'll see an 'E' worked into them. |
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New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message
.. . Did they mentiion the closed stations? Yes. Hudson Terminal, replaced by World Trade Center. parts of this still exist below ground level, and there was talk of using the site for the tempoary World Trade Center station at one time. There is still talk of reusing the Hudson Terminal site for the new permanent World Trade Center station, because the demolished WTC station (and the temporary station) are partly in the footprint which the WTC relatives want kept sacred. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
In article , Stephen Furley
writes The system was at one time known as the 'Hudson Tubes', Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the New York area are the "name Tubes", so the "Hudson Tubes" would logically be the WTC branch with some other name for the 33rd Street branch. -- Clive D.W. Feather, writing for himself | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message ... Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the New York area are the "name Tubes", so the "Hudson Tubes" would logically be the WTC branch with some other name for the 33rd Street branch. I think so; when I was there the World Trade Center line was closed, so I have only been on the 33rd street one, therefore the tiled signs I have seen pointing to the 'Hudson Tubes' must have been on that line. I think one is at 33rd street. When I was first there, in April 2002, Path seemed to have made every possible effort to remove all possible effort to remove all evidence of the WTC line. There was no 'closed for reconstruction' to be seen anywhere. there are a few cast metal route diagrams which had not been removed or covered, but I had not seen these. When I heard of the WTC station I assumed it was served by a branch heading South from somewhere near Christopher Street, but I could see no sign of a junction there. It was only when I returned six months later that I discovered that the WTC line had its own tunnels under the Hudson, and the junctions were clearly visible, if I had been looking for them in the right place. The Path station at Exchange place was still there of course, and I think can be seen from a passing Hudson-Bergen train, but I had not noticed it the first time. |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"Bob Watt" wrote in message ... On 08/04/2004 22:05, in article , "Stephen Furley" wrote: The original station in Newark, I can't remember the name. Park Place, IIRC. In the 70s, the swing-bridge which carried the H&M across the Passaic River en route to Park Place was still extant. It had two levels with RR tracks on both - the H&M was on the upper level. That's it. I don't know anything about it. where was it, and when did it close? Newark Penn seems to have undergone some major reconstruction in the '30s, judging by the style of the builnings; was the H&M diverted there then? Between Newark and Juornal Square the line crosses two rivers, which of these is the Passaic, and what is the other. There are massive bridges crossing both of these rivers, which obviously opened at one time, but I don't think they do now. Where was Manhattan Transfer, and whos trains served it? Hoboken is interesting, with its views across the Hudson to Manhattan, and its fine old copper clad ferry terminal building, long closed and now in poor condition, but to be restored. The waiting room of the main line station has also been restored, and reminds me of the Great Hall at the old Euston. In the 70s, there were two large-scale models of steam locomotives in the waiting room - one in Erie livery, the other painted for DL&W; are they still there ?. I didn't see any large-scale models, but there are two large wood and glass cases, one in the waiting room, and the orher as you walk down the right side of the station towards one of the Path entrances, which collect money for charity. I dropped a few coins in as I walked past, but didn't look closely. I think they had model railways in them. I'll have a better look when I'm there. On the South side of the station, near the entrance to the last track, there was a small pipe coming down from above, from which came a burst of steam and hot water every few seconds. It cane from the direction of the old ferry terminal; I've no idea of its purpose. The terminus of the new Hudson-Bergen light rail line is also on this side of the station. It doesn't reach the main station concourse, but ends some distance to the West. There is Major development taking place in this area; the old ferry terminal is to re-open, so the temporary one will no longer be needed. I don't know if the line will then be extended those last few tens of metres to reach the main station. One station which changed name; Pavonia Avenue. Was originally Erie (before the Erie trains were rerouted to Hoboken). Look carefully at the decoration on the pillars holding the roof up, and you'll see an 'E' worked into them. They are still there, but are no longer picked out in paint. The whole capitol is painted green unlike, for example, Hoboken where the letter is in white, on a blue background. It has been renamed again in fairly recent times, and is now Pavonia Newport. The area has seen much new development in recent years, greatly increasing use of the station, and the old side platform is being re-opened. The Hudsen-Bergen has a station nearby, which was called Newport, but which seemed to be announced as Pavonia Newport. It is however a rather poor interchange, several minutes walk, and poorly signed. It is now generally better to change between the lines at Hoboken or Exchange Place. Newport was the terminus of the line from when it opened about four years ago until the opening of the extension to Hoboken, sometime between my April and October visits in 2002. The line turns East to enter Hoboken, but there is a triangular junction in place, and the line is to be extended further North. Taking the H-B South from Newport, can be seen another relic of the old H&M, the original power station, derelict, but with some rather fine decorative brick and ironwork. it stands alone in the centre of a large cleared area, and there were proposals for ir to be preserved, restored and converted to ather uses. I haven't heard if its future, if any, has yet been decided. A couple of years ago the Newark City Subway was re-equipped with similar light rail units to those operating on the H-B. Some of the old cars were still in the depot last year, and from what I could see of the one nearest the fence, still looked in remarkably good condition for their age. I don't know if there are any plans to preserve one. Towards the end of their life they were fitted with pantographs for working from the new style overhead line, though one or two of those stored at the depot still had trolley poles. The Penn Station terminus of the line was a building site last year, with major renovations taking place. Only the two outer tracks are now in use. There were workmen cutting metal and concrete slabs, clouds of dust and smoke, gas cylinders and various construction plant on the platforms, 110 Volt cables trailing everywhere, and the station was still open to passengers. Over here the Health and Safety people would have had a fit! At the other end of the line the old loop has been removed, one of the stations has closed, to be replaced by a new one nearby, and the line has been extended to a new terminus, close to which is the new depot. There is to be another extension to the line, a branch to Newark Broad Street station. Since the subway already has a Broad Street, I assume we will see a renaming here. Last month NJ Transit opened a new, Diesel-powered light rail line, the 'River Line', from Trenton to Camden; I will be going to see it while I am over there. There's a lot of money being spent on railway development in the area at the moment, but it is far from universally popular; one mans new or improved rail system is another mans 'waste of my money by leftist liberals'. You can't please all of the people all of the time. You will find many posts on this in nyc.transit, misc.transport.urban-transit and misc.transport.rail.americas, though sadly nyc.transit has recently been taken over by Bush v Kerry, pro and anti-gay and anti-Jewish spam, and sadly now has little worth reading. It's happening to more and more groups now. The Prelinger archive has a rather nice little film of the old Third Avenue Elevated line he http://www.archive.org/movies/detail...ger&collection id=31238 It is freely available for download, in various formats. I took the MPEG2 versiion, de-interlaced it, removed the 3:2 telecine pulldown, and made a DVD from it. That links to another of my interests: film, and in particular, documentary film. One of the main reasons for my visit to NJ is to visit the Lowe's Jersey Theatre in Journal Square, which is now, slowly, undergoing restoration. There's still a lot of work to do, but they run film about one weekend a month between about October and May. They have their original 1929 stage lighting board, and a lot of other plant still in place. Up in the projection box there are now two relatively modern, as projectors go, maybe 30 years old, Kinoton machines, with Ashcraft carbon arcs, running at about 160 Amps, but I don't know how long they will be able to get the very large carbons for them. There's also a simplex projector on a Western Universal base, complete with turntable for sound on disk, two not working but restorable Brenograph effects projectors, a carbon arc follow spot, storage cabinet for the old 16 inch sound disks, and much more. They have a web site he www.loew'sjersey.org. I do occasional projection work at various places, and the reason that I couldn't get to the Path meeting is that I was projecting at the David Lean Cinema in Croydon at the time. |
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"Peter Beale" wrote in message o.uk... In article , (Stephen Furley) wrote: World Trade Center, slightly to the West of Hodson Terminal. We all know what happened to that. Reopened November 23rd 2003: see http://www.panynj.gov/path/WTCSeatdropF.pdf Rather a new, temporary, station opened on the site of the original. |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... There is still talk of reusing the Hudson Terminal site for the new permanent World Trade Center station, because the demolished WTC station (and the temporary station) are partly in the footprint which the WTC relatives want kept sacred. There was a suggestion at one time of extending Path East of the WTC site, then turning North to join one of the existing Subway lines, I think it may have been the 6, towards Lexington Avenue, joining it somewhere near the old dis-used City Hall station on the loop where the 6 turns now, but I'm not sure about this. There was a web-site about it. Somebody reported that Path is incompatible with the Subway, but, espically since Path is to get new rolling stock soon, I would have thought the work involved to make it compatible would be relatively minor, in terms of the total reconstruction of the WTC site. Whether there would be any other technical problems, and whether there would be enough demand for such a service, I have no idea. Was any mention made of this. |
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Even without signage, those who rode the Tubes could feel the
"missing" tunnels. One characteristic of the Tubes is the extremely sharp narrow radius turns which cause lurching and noise. The most noticeable are the junctions in Jersey City [from Exchange Place and Journal Square to Pavonia Newport and from Hoboken and Pavonia Newport to Christopher Street] but even in Manhattan, such as leaving 9th Street bound northwards at the aborted tunnel to the East Side. On the section from the uptown tunnel to Hoboken you pass through three turns which sometimes seem to be right angled! There's more info on the Tubes / PATH at my Hudson Tubes website at http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/gatewaytubepage.html . ======================== "Stephen Furley" wrote in message ... "Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message ... Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the New York area are the "name Tubes", so the "Hudson Tubes" would logically be the WTC branch with some other name for the 33rd Street branch. I think so; when I was there the World Trade Center line was closed, so I have only been on the 33rd street one, therefore the tiled signs I have seen pointing to the 'Hudson Tubes' must have been on that line. I think one is at 33rd street. When I was first there, in April 2002, Path seemed to have made every possible effort to remove all possible effort to remove all evidence of the WTC line. There was no 'closed for reconstruction' to be seen anywhere. there are a few cast metal route diagrams which had not been removed or covered, but I had not seen these. When I heard of the WTC station I assumed it was served by a branch heading South from somewhere near Christopher Street, but I could see no sign of a junction there. It was only when I returned six months later that I discovered that the WTC line had its own tunnels under the Hudson, and the junctions were clearly visible, if I had been looking for them in the right place. The Path station at Exchange place was still there of course, and I think can be seen from a passing Hudson-Bergen train, but I had not noticed it the first time. |
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The river to the west, between Newark and Harrison, is the Passaic
River which passes through Paterson up north, flows southwards and empties into Newark Bay; the next river, inside Jersey City, is the Hackensack River, also emptying into Newark Bay. Manhattan Transfer was slightly to the east and slightly to the north of the present Harrison station. The Pennsylvania originally switched from steam to electric power there for the trip into Penn Station [New York] though the North River Tunnnels that were finished around 1912; until then the Pennsy had its New York terminal in Jersey City at Exchange Place and used ferries to Manhattan. When the Pennsy electrified the New York Philadelphia Washington route in the 1930s, Manhattan Transfer was no longer needed and was demolished. It was at that same time that the new [present] Newark Penn Station was built. The Hudson Tubes website at http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/gatewaytubepage.html has a sightseeing tour [#9] which may be helpful for out of town visitors to the Tubes. ====================== Between Newark and Juornal Square the line crosses two rivers, which of these is the Passaic, and what is the other. There are massive bridges crossing both of these rivers, which obviously opened at one time, but I don't think they do now. Where was Manhattan Transfer, and whos trains served it? |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday website
"bob" wrote in message om... Even without signage, those who rode the Tubes could feel the "missing" tunnels. One characteristic of the Tubes is the extremely sharp narrow radius turns which cause lurching and noise. The most noticeable are the junctions in Jersey City [from Exchange Place and Journal Square to Pavonia Newport and from Hoboken and Pavonia Newport to Christopher Street] but even in Manhattan, such as leaving 9th Street bound northwards at the aborted tunnel to the East Side. On the section from the uptown tunnel to Hoboken you pass through three turns which sometimes seem to be right angled! There's more info on the Tubes / PATH at my Hudson Tubes website at http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/gatewaytubepage.html . Yes, the last time I was there, just a year ago, I stood at the front of a Path train, and looked out of the front window as we went round the curves. |
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On 09/04/2004 12:26, in article ,
"Stephen Furley" wrote: That's it. I don't know anything about it. where was it, and when did it close? Newark Penn seems to have undergone some major reconstruction in the '30s, judging by the style of the builnings; was the H&M diverted there then? Newark Penn was opened in June 1937, and H&M trains operated there from June 20. By 1974 there wasn't any trace of Park Place terminal, although you could pinpoint it to within a block or so by the orientation of the swing-bridge when shut. Between Newark and Juornal Square the line crosses two rivers, which of these is the Passaic, and what is the other. There are massive bridges crossing both of these rivers, which obviously opened at one time, but I don't think they do now. Where was Manhattan Transfer, and whos trains served it? The Passaic is at the New York end of Newark Penn; the other river is the Hackensack, much nearer Jersey City. Manhattan Transfer was about 1 - 1.5 miles East of the present-day Harrison stop on PATH. It was served by H&M and Pennsylvania RR trains. If Hudson tower is still there, alongside PATH, that will give you the exact location - it used to be tower S, at the East end of Manhattan Transfer. Manhattan Transfer existed to enable interchange between PRR trains and H&M, and was also the place where electrics replaced steam for the run into Penn station in NYC. It opened in 1910, and closed June 20, 1937. Like Dovey Jct., it had no road access whatever. I didn't see any large-scale models, but there are two large wood and glass cases, one in the waiting room, and the orher as you walk down the right side of the station towards one of the Path entrances, which collect money for charity. I dropped a few coins in as I walked past, but didn't look closely. I think they had model railways in them. I'll have a better look when I'm there. The large-scale models were high up on the walls, about 30 ft. up. If you can find a copy of "Rails Under The Mighty Hudson" (Brian J Cudahy, Stephen Greene Press, 1975) it will answer many questions about H&M/PATH history. |
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Bob Watt wrote in message ...
One station which changed name; Pavonia Avenue. Was originally Erie (before the Erie trains were rerouted to Hoboken). Look carefully at the decoration on the pillars holding the roof up, and you'll see an 'E' worked into them. Another, very early name change: Journal Square opened as Summit Avenue. Michael Wares |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the
New York area are the "name Tubes", so the "Hudson Tubes" would logically be the WTC branch with some other name for the 33rd Street branch. Yes, the entire Hudson and Manhattan Railroad was popularly known as the Hudson Tubes. In fact, for a brief period after the H&M went bankrupt, and before the Port Authority's PATH took over, the operator was "Hudson Rapid Tubes". I don't hear "Hudson Tubes" much any more; PATH seems to be the commonly used name now. Michael Wares |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
Bob Watt wrote in message ...
If you can find a copy of "Rails Under The Mighty Hudson" (Brian J Cudahy, Stephen Greene Press, 1975) it will answer many questions about H&M/PATH history. There's a new edition out, by Fordham University Press. I'd also recommend "The Hudson and Manhattan Railroad Revisited" by Paul Carleton, published by D. Carleton Rail Books. Michael Wares |
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New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
In article , Stephen Furley
writes There was a suggestion at one time of extending Path East of the WTC site, then turning North to join one of the existing Subway lines, [...] Somebody reported that Path is incompatible with the Subway, but, espically since Path is to get new rolling stock soon, I would have thought the work involved to make it compatible would be relatively minor, Isn't PATH rather smaller than the Subway? If so, there may well be platform-train spacing problems. -- Clive D.W. Feather, writing for himself | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |
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In article , Clive D. W. Feather
writes The system was at one time known as the 'Hudson Tubes', Are you sure that's the whole line? Various underwater tunnels in the New York area are the "name Tubes", Bad memory on my part - they are the "name Tunnels". PATH was, of course, the Hudson and Manhattan Railway and thence the Hudson Tubes. Sorry. -- Clive D.W. Feather, writing for himself | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |
New York's PATH meeting this Wednesday
Bob Watt wrote in message ...
On 09/04/2004 12:26, in article , The large-scale models were high up on the walls, about 30 ft. up. Bob, I am in New York at the moment, I had a look at Hoboken Terminal yesterday afternoon. There is one model still there, I'm not sure which RR company it was from, but it was dark red in colour. It is rather difficult to see; there is a Hudson News outlet on the station I don't know if it was there when you saw the models, but it has entrances from both inside the waiting room, and outsine, on the station concourse. The model I saw was on top of the part inside the waiting room, and difficult to see, unless you are standing in just the right place. It was almost certainly there before, but I just didn't notice it. I don't know where the other one is, I can't see it anywhere. There seems to be some refurbishment work taking place on the old ferry terminal building now. |
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"Stephen Furley" wrote in message .. . "John Rowland" wrote in message ... There is still talk of reusing the Hudson Terminal site for the new permanent World Trade Center station, because the demolished WTC station (and the temporary station) are partly in the footprint which the WTC relatives want kept sacred. There was a suggestion at one time of extending Path East of the WTC site, then turning North to join one of the existing Subway lines, I think it may have been the 6, towards Lexington Avenue, joining it somewhere near the old dis-used City Hall station on the loop where the 6 turns now, but I'm not sure about this. There was a web-site about it. Somebody reported that Path is incompatible with the Subway, but, espically since Path is to get new rolling stock soon, I would have thought the work involved to make it compatible would be relatively minor, in terms of the total reconstruction of the WTC site. Whether there would be any other technical problems, and whether there would be enough demand for such a service, I have no idea. Was any mention made of this. Apparently the Port Authority of NY & NJ has decided to oppose the idea of connecting PATH to the #6 Lexington Avenue local line. There is a report at http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/njar...lexington.html showing the proposed route. The idea was advocated by NJ_ARP, the New Jersey Association of Railroad Passengers, as a means of providing Jersey residents with a direct route to Grand Gentral Station, and the highest concentration of office space in midtown Manhattan. Instead of building the useful PATH - IRT connection, they are spending billions of FEMA money (earmarked for Lower Manhattan after 9/11) on the permanent PATH terminal designed by Calatrava, and on the Fulton Street Transit Hub, neither of which will add one single inch of rail to the system. |
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