Here's a new phenomenon: carrying out Underground track repairs whilst a
train
is in service, which is deliberately held up for that purpose!

as others have said it is nothing new. Surely you would prefer that a
running repair was made in this effective fashion rather than being
turfed off the train, the line suspended and you being delayed?

I was not complaining - merely pointing out something I had not seen before.

I was once on a North London Line train when the (heritage unit) diesel failed,
and the driver got out and effected mechanical repairs whilst we all watched in
admiration!

But I do have a genuine concern for safety - as Counsel who prosecutes for the
Health and Safety Executive on occasion. Working in a dark tunnel, with two
electrified rails fills me with horror!

Marc.

"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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I can't offer an explanation but I had a similar experience last year on
a
Bakerloo line train. I boarded at Piccadilly Circus to find that the
carriage reeked with a burning smell, a whole bank of seats were lifted
and
two engineers were intently watching the traction motor below. There
were
a
lot of grinding and banging noises (unusual ones) coming from the
wheelset
as we progressed towards Queen's Park.

I was surprised that the vehicle was in service. Had it been an
overground
TOC then the vehicle would have been locked out of service, rather than
full
of after-show revellers on their way home, surrounding working
engineers -
but then that's LUL for you!

You'd prefer the entire train to be withdrawn from service?

No. I'd prefer that the entire car was locked out of use. Be sensible,
Robin.

It's not very good from the customer point of view having the guts of the
car on show - however safe equipment is, it often doesn't look very good in
the 'raw metal/grease'. The guys were struggling to pay attention to what
was occurring with the wheelsets, with customers getting in their way from
both sides and, from the other point of view, some of the female passengers
were looking distinctly unhappy about the possibility of getting grease on
their posh frocks.

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...

You'd prefer the entire train to be withdrawn from service?

No. I'd prefer that the entire car was locked out of use. Be sensible,
Robin.

It's not very good from the customer point of view having the guts of the
car on show - however safe equipment is, it often doesn't look very good
in
the 'raw metal/grease'. The guys were struggling to pay attention to what
was occurring with the wheelsets, with customers getting in their way from
both sides and, from the other point of view, some of the female
passengers
were looking distinctly unhappy about the possibility of getting grease on
their posh frocks.

There's no way to 'lock out' carriages. You can stop the passenger doors
from opening on one car but people will just use the interconnecting door to
access it anyway.

"Mait001" wrote in message
...

But I do have a genuine concern for safety - as Counsel who prosecutes for
the
Health and Safety Executive on occasion. Working in a dark tunnel, with
two
electrified rails fills me with horror!

You'd have a heart attack at some of the sights I've seen in my time then!

Seriously though, as long as you're careful and watch what you're doing,
there's nothing wrong with being trackside with the juice on. If traction
current was turned off every time someone had to go trackside there'd be far
more delays!

"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
.. .

There's no way to 'lock out' carriages. You can stop the passenger doors
from opening on one car but people will just use the interconnecting door
to
access it anyway.

I'm well aware of that - but actually trying is better than nothing at all.

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...

"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
.. .

There's no way to 'lock out' carriages. You can stop the passenger doors
from opening on one car but people will just use the interconnecting
door
to
access it anyway.

I'm well aware of that - but actually trying is better than nothing at
all.

You can't on 72 stock. So it's either in service or not. The guys were
probably checking for repeating line breakers (someone else explain) by the
sounds of things

In article , Mait001
writes
Here's a new phenomenon: carrying out Underground track repairs whilst a train
is in service, which is deliberately held up for that purpose!
[...]
Can any of the more experienced aficianados of this site shed any light on this
curiosity?

I've certainly seen it before.

I recall a situation where there was a signal failure in a tube tunnel.
Fixing this basically meant checking each step of the circuit in turn,
with these being spread out through the tunnel. So the following process
was used:
- engineering staff boarded the cab at station A
- the train ran forward to the faulty signal and stopped
- the driver took the train forward slowly, tripping and then resetting
the trip
- the train ran forward to the next point where a check was needed
- the engineering staff got out and checked a couple of items, protected
by the stationary train
- the staff got back in and carried on to station B
- they then took a service train back to station A
and repeat until the problem is fixed.

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"Mait001" wrote in message
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Here's a new phenomenon: carrying out Underground track repairs whilst a
train
is in service, which is deliberately held up for that purpose!

Can any of the more experienced aficianados of this site shed any light on
this
curiosity?

Take a read:
http://www.trainweb.org/districtdave...at_danger.html

Half way down that page is a description of something similar to what you've
described.

-Dave
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Many thanks, dave: an excellent link!

Marc.

"Mait001" wrote in message
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Many thanks, dave: an excellent link!

Marc.

No problem! If you like that site, you may also want to take a look
TubePrune's site:

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/

Dave
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