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Clive D. W. Feather April 27th 04 12:59 PM

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In article , Ian Jelf
writes
(Incidentally, the "Howdah" was a quite common guild symbol,

[...]
I *think* it might even appear on the coat of arms of the Mercers'
Company in London, too but I'm not in a position to check that out from
where I'm posting at the moment.


Checked. No.

On their web site, the shield is shown as gules, a woman's head and
shoulders cut off by a wreath argent and wearing a coronet with 8 points
surmounted by balls [1], all within a very fancy [2] bordure argent. No
supporters. Crest is the same woman. Motto "HONOR DEO".

[1] Not one of the crest coronets I recognise.
[2] I can't be bothered to look up what it is.

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Clive D. W. Feather April 27th 04 01:15 PM

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In article , Tristán White
writes
Seeing you're all going on ad nauseum about station names, how about
my local one, Canning Town?


My sources say it was named after Earl [1] Charles John Canning, last
Governor-General (1856-8) and first Viceroy (1858-62) of India (he was
in power during the Mutiny). This makes sense since the town sprung up
around 1850 to house workers servicing the docks handling traffic to and
from India.

Would be interested in knowing its origin. I've heard everything, from
the fact it comes from the name of former statesman Sir George Canning


That was his father.

Then there are some who say it comes from the canning factories that
popped up there in the early 19th century.


That sounds like a cod-etymology.

Then others say it was named after John Charles Canning (Lord
Canning), who was a governor of India in the early 19th century.


See above.

[1] Created 1859. He was also the 2nd Viscount Canning. Both titles died
with him.

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Tom Anderson April 27th 04 03:38 PM

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Rowland wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, John Rowland wrote:

Er... where's the roundabout at Seven Sisters?


Oops. Obviously, when i said 'roundabout', i meant 'junction'.


Is that junction called Seven Sisters? I've always known it as Wards'
Corner.


Well, that's what it says in my A-Z, although that doesn't mean that's
what locals actually call it.

tom

--
The ``is'' keyword binds with the same precedence as ``.'', even when it's not actually there. -- Larry Wall, Apocalypse 2


John of Aix April 27th 04 05:41 PM

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"Yanart Amin Ari" a écrit dans le message de news:
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wrote in message

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Seanie O'Kilfoyle wrote:

"Dave Newt"

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Been a while since I went to Southall. I can tell the difference; I

had
just forgotten.

(Of course, Panjabi script is not officially recognised even in

Pakistan.)


Spoken very Pashtunately


Gesundheit.


Hesus !


Dominic Hisbiscum.



Dave Newt April 27th 04 05:57 PM

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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In article , Tristán White
writes

Seeing you're all going on ad nauseum about station names, how about
my local one, Canning Town?



My sources say it was named after Earl [1] Charles John Canning, last
Governor-General (1856-8) and first Viceroy (1858-62) of India (he was
in power during the Mutiny). This makes sense since the town sprung up
around 1850 to house workers servicing the docks handling traffic to and
from India.


If it's the same Canning as Canning Dock in Liverpool, then it seems to
go back a little further:

http://www.diduknow.info/docks/acces..._history8.html

1832
Canning Dock is officially named after the politician, George Canning.

Though it was built much earlier, if this source is right:

http://www.merseyside.org.uk/researc...fLiverpool.pdf

The first commercial wet dock in the world was Canning Dock, built in
Liverpool in 1715.

John of Aix April 27th 04 06:17 PM

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"Tom Anderson" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, John Rowland wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, John Rowland wrote:

Er... where's the roundabout at Seven Sisters?

Oops. Obviously, when i said 'roundabout', i meant 'junction'.


Is that junction called Seven Sisters? I've always known it as Wards'
Corner.


Well, that's what it says in my A-Z, although that doesn't mean that's
what locals actually call it.


There are two, Wards Corner is the nearest to Seven Sisters Station and
Stamford Hill. Seven Sisters is a little further on, 5-600 yards towards the
Spurs ground.





Annabel Smyth April 27th 04 07:29 PM

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 at 20:43:22, Brian Watson
wrote:


"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
...

How many London placenames (and, moreover, station names) are based on
trees? Seven Sisters, Sevenoaks, Royal Oak, Burnt Oak, Poplar ...


I thought Poplar was called Poplar 'cos lots of people like it.

IGMC.


Well, most of the announcers on the DLR solemnly tell you that "The next
station is Popular"....

Better than the next station being Oval, it always looks long and thin
like the others, to me.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

Annabel Smyth April 27th 04 07:30 PM

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 at 11:43:40, Tristán White
wrote:

Seeing you're all going on ad nauseum about station names, how about
my local one, Canning Town?

I thought it was because of canning factories, myself, BICBW. After
all, the plaque in the station commemorates a ship-builders..... (it's
now my local work station, as opposed to home, so I use it most days).
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

Brian Watson April 27th 04 09:55 PM

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"John of Aix" wrote in message
...

Dominic Hisbiscum.


Is that any linguistic relation of "paxo vobiscum" (go and get stuffed)?

--
Brian
"You don't stop laughing because you grow old. You grow old because you stop
laughing."



Dave Newt April 28th 04 12:46 PM

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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote:

In article , Ian Jelf
writes
(Incidentally, the "Howdah" was a quite common guild symbol,

[...]
I *think* it might even appear on the coat of arms of the Mercers'
Company in London, too but I'm not in a position to check that out from
where I'm posting at the moment.


Checked. No.

On their web site, the shield is shown as gules, a woman's head and
shoulders cut off by a wreath argent and wearing a coronet with 8 points
surmounted by balls [1], all within a very fancy [2] bordure argent. No
supporters. Crest is the same woman. Motto "HONOR DEO".


The Mercer's shield is on the wall down the corridor from my office, and
seems to be just as you descibe here too. All I can add is that the
wreath and border seem to be cloud-like in appearance, as are the balls,
which are also a mixture of gules/argent. The whole thing looks a lot
more stylised/artistic than the other Company shields.

Ian Jelf April 28th 04 12:59 PM

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In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , Ian Jelf
writes
(Incidentally, the "Howdah" was a quite common guild symbol,

[...]
I *think* it might even appear on the coat of arms of the Mercers'
Company in London, too but I'm not in a position to check that out from
where I'm posting at the moment.


Checked. No.


Thanks, Clive.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Bob Watt April 28th 04 05:42 PM

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On 27/04/2004 20:30, in article ,
"Annabel Smyth" wrote:

I thought it was because of canning factories, myself, BICBW. After
all, the plaque in the station commemorates a ship-builders..... (it's
now my local work station, as opposed to home, so I use it most days).


"The London Encyclopaedia" suggests it may have been named after Lord
Canning, the Governor-General of India about 1850. The shipyard and the
Victoria Dock were the main local industries.

HTH.


John of Aix April 28th 04 06:26 PM

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"Brian Watson" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"John of Aix" wrote in message
...

Dominic Hisbiscum.


Is that any linguistic relation of "paxo vobiscum" (go and get stuffed)?


It is.
Et cum spiritu tui (May the Whisky be with you)



Colin McKenzie April 28th 04 09:56 PM

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Tom Anderson wrote:

How many London placenames (and, moreover, station names) are based on
trees? Seven Sisters, Sevenoaks, Royal Oak, Burnt Oak, Poplar ...
Shepherd's Bush? If you also look for woods and forests, there are loads -
Wealdstone, Theydon Bois, various -woods. Add in the various Greens and
you'd barely think there was as city there at all.


Perivale, for one: 'valley with pear trees' according to 'What's in a
name'.

And apparently the seven sisters were elm trees (same source), so they
certainly aren't there any more.

Colin McKenzie
--
Why believe statistics?
Ignore them and you can believe the damned lies instead!


John of Aix April 28th 04 10:49 PM

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"Bob Watt" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 27/04/2004 20:30, in article ,
"Annabel Smyth" wrote:

I thought it was because of canning factories, myself, BICBW. After
all, the plaque in the station commemorates a ship-builders..... (it's
now my local work station, as opposed to home, so I use it most days).


"The London Encyclopaedia" suggests it may have been named after Lord
Canning, the Governor-General of India about 1850. The shipyard and the
Victoria Dock were the main local industries.


There was also a large glassworks.




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