In message , at 16:06:20
on Mon, 3 Jun 2019, David Cantrell remarked:
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:10:15AM +0100, Basil Jet wrote:

I saw one in Platform 1 at Paddington at around midnight. The
destination indicator on the side said "Shenfield via Stratford". After
a couple of minutes it changed to "Hayes & Harlington".

I wonder why the "Via Stratford" is felt necessary.

Probably because people wanting stations between Paddington and
Stratford have a chance of knowing where Stratford is but won't be able
to immediately place an irrelevant little town in rural Essex.

Just like people can't place an irrelevant little town (with a similarly
important role as a railway junction/terminus) in Wiltshire called
Westbury?
--
Roland Perry

In message , David
Cantrell writes

Probably because people wanting stations between Paddington and
Stratford have a chance of knowing where Stratford is but won't be able
to immediately place an irrelevant little town in rural Essex.

Not to be confused with Stratford in the London Borough of Newham , a
major transport hub, location of Olympic Park and as stated elsewhere
"Stratford is now East London's primary retail, cultural and leisure
centre. It has also become the second most significant (after Canary
Wharf) business location in the east of the capital"
--
Bryan Morris

On 04/06/2019 03:44, Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , David
Cantrell writes

Probably because people wanting stations between Paddington and
Stratford have a chance of knowing where Stratford is but won't be able
to immediately place an irrelevant little town in rural Essex.

Not to be confused with Stratford in the London Borough of Newham , a
major transport hub, location of Olympic Park and as stated elsewhere
"Stratford is now East London's primary retail, cultural and leisure
centre. It has also become the second most significant (after Canary
Wharf) business location in the east of the capital"

Is the Two Puddings still there?

--
Graeme Wall
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In message , Graeme Wall
writes
On 04/06/2019 03:44, Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , David
Cantrell writes

Probably because people wanting stations between Paddington and
Stratford have a chance of knowing where Stratford is but won't be able
to immediately place an irrelevant little town in rural Essex.

Not to be confused with Stratford in the London Borough of Newham , a
major transport hub, location of Olympic Park and as stated elsewhere
"Stratford is now East London's primary retail, cultural and leisure
centre. It has also become the second most significant (after Canary
Wharf) business location in the east of the capital"

Is the Two Puddings still there?

Nope http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/london/e...opuddings.html

I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going East
from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone, Woodford
Green and Woodford.

London Perl Mongers obviously don't know about London
--
Bryan Morris

On 04/06/2019 10:40, Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , Graeme Wall
writes
On 04/06/2019 03:44, Bryan Morris wrote:
In message , David
Cantrell writes

Probably because people wanting stations between Paddington and
Stratford have a chance of knowing where Stratford is but won't be able
to immediately place an irrelevant little town in rural Essex.

Not to be confused with Stratford in the London Borough of Newham , a
major transport hub, location of Olympic Park and as stated elsewhere
"Stratford is now East London's primary retail, cultural and leisure
centre. It has also become the second most significant (after Canary
Wharf) business location in the east of the capital"

Is the Two Puddings still there?

Nope http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/london/e...opuddings.html

Another bit of my disreputable past gone!


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

In article ,
Bryan Morris wrote:
I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going East
from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone, Woodford
Green and Woodford.

Pre '65, all of those stations (and Stratford) were in Essex.

London Perl Mongers obviously don't know about London

They're old and tied to the past.

--
Mike Bristow

In message , Mike Bristow
writes
In article ,
Bryan Morris wrote:
I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going East
from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone, Woodford
Green and Woodford.

Pre '65, all of those stations (and Stratford) were in Essex.


Outside the LCC area but like Tottenham (in Middlesex) and south of the
Thames (in Surrey) had London Post Codes.
--
Bryan Morris

In message , at 10:40:51 on Tue, 4 Jun
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going East
from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone, Woodford
Green and Woodford.

Back in the day, Straford was were people regarded London as starting.
Perhaps because while still in Essex (until 1965) it was a County
Borough and hence felt more like a part of what was to become Greater
London, than its neighbour Ilford which was merely an Urban District
under the wing of Essex County Council.

Post 1965, for a while many people still thought of Romford as a market
town in Essex, although the continuous built up area as far as the Green
Belt (Harold Wood) tended to reinforce the perception it was thoroughly
London.

Brentwood is interesting, because while still in Essex, it became
simultaneously the "first place in Essex" for people looking outwards,
but "the start of London" for people looking inwards.

Shenfield is to Brentwood, as Hove is to Brighton.
--
Roland Perry

On 04/06/2019 12:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:40:51 on Tue, 4 Jun
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going
East from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone,
Woodford Green and Woodford.

Back in the day, Straford was were people regarded London as starting.
Perhaps because while still in Essex (until 1965) it was a County
Borough and hence felt more like a part of what was to become Greater
London, than its neighbour Ilford which was merely an Urban District
under the wing of Essex County Council.

Post 1965, for a while many people still thought of Romford as a market
town in Essex, although the continuous built up area as far as the Green
Belt (Harold Wood) tended to reinforce the perception it was thoroughly
London.

Brentwood is interesting, because while still in Essex, it became
simultaneously the "first place in Essex" for people looking outwards,
but "the start of London" for people looking inwards.

Shenfield is to Brentwood, as Hove is to Brighton.

I've never heard it referred to as Shenfield-Actually.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

On 04/06/2019 12:28, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 04/06/2019 12:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:40:51 on Tue, 4 Jun
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I pass through Stratford on the Central Line on the way home and for
whoever thinks Stratford is in Essex should be reminded that going
East from Stratford, London stations include Leyton, Leytonstone,
Woodford Green and Woodford.

Back in the day, Straford was were people regarded London as starting.
Perhaps because while still in Essex (until 1965) it was a County
Borough and hence felt more like a part of what was to become Greater
London, than its neighbour Ilford which was merely an Urban District
under the wing of Essex County Council.

Post 1965, for a while many people still thought of Romford as a
market town in Essex, although the continuous built up area as far as
the Green Belt (Harold Wood) tended to reinforce the perception it was
thoroughly London.

Brentwood is interesting, because while still in Essex, it became
simultaneously the "first place in Essex" for people looking outwards,
but "the start of London" for people looking inwards.

Shenfield is to Brentwood, as Hove is to Brighton.

I've never heard it referred to as Shenfield-Actually.


Quite: there are public buildings with Brentwood in the name east of
Shenfield station.

--
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