In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.


Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.


Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

Too far in the future to predict it won't get quietly dropped.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.



Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

Too far in the future to predict it won't get quietly dropped.

Hardly. The train order was placed ten months ago, not 'far in the future'.


My main reservation is that the work is being done by Wabtec (Brush)
Loughborough, which seems to be late with everything.

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be
distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo
bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of
years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT.
The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the
economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.

its' what he does

you knew that already

tim

In message , at 11:13:05 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.

Pointing out basic economics doesn't meet that definition.

Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

Too far in the future to predict it won't get quietly dropped.

Hardly. The train order was placed ten months ago, not 'far in the future'.

Next May is too far in the future for us to predict today that it will
actually happen.

My main reservation is that the work is being done by Wabtec (Brush)
Loughborough, which seems to be late with everything.

I've recently been reading about 2014 ambitions for East-West rail (for
a discussion in another place). The one consistency is that pretty much
all the prerequisites upon which that plan was based have failed to
materialise either on time (eg Ely North junction by 2016, or other much
more significant projects like Crossrail) or at all (eg MML
electrification).

Rail industry vapourware is rampant.
--
Roland Perry