Peter Able wrote:
On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote:
(nor the central Met/District)

Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want
to go in Z1

You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative
journey take "forever"

Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the
planner before I travelled

tim

I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it
doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith &
City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that.

Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..?



We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you
perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would
you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed
around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not
complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were
there must be the golden age that transcends all others.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png

GH


Not complete circles then? I guess that things are so much better now.

I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South
Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on
and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road.

Circle Line. Huh!

Wouldn't it be quicker, and involve fewer unavoidable stairs, to take the
Jubilee and Piccadilly lines, changing (step-free) at Green Park. Both
those lines are much more frequent than the Circle line, so the time would
be more predictable.

On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.

The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable
stairs,
would be via Green Park.

Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from
experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person,
particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground.

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Ria in Aberdeen

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MissRiaElaine wrote:

On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.

The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable
stairs,
would be via Green Park.

Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from
experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person,
particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground.

I don't think there's a step-free LU route from Baker St to South Ken
(there obviously ought to be). But the route via Green Park has the fewest
steps.

For example, at South Ken, you have a lot more steps to get from the Circle
Line platforms to the booking office than you do from the Piccadilly
platforms (there were no steps in the 1960s, with the old lifts).

"Peter Able" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote:
(nor the central Met/District)

Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you
want
to go in Z1

You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative
journey take "forever"

Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the
planner before I travelled

tim

I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it
doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith &
City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that.

Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..?



We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you
perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough
would
you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed
around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not
complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were
there must be the golden age that transcends all others.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png

GH


Not complete circles then? I guess that things are so much better now.

I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington,
she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes
use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road.

I'm surprised, that give its other interchange possibilities, that ER
doesn't have a lift to use to traverse between the platforms

tim

On 07/01/2020 01:59, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:

On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.

The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable
stairs,
would be via Green Park.

Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from
experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person,
particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground.

I don't think there's a step-free LU route from Baker St to South Ken
(there obviously ought to be). But the route via Green Park has the fewest
steps.

For example, at South Ken, you have a lot more steps to get from the Circle
Line platforms to the booking office than you do from the Piccadilly
platforms (there were no steps in the 1960s, with the old lifts).

True enough.


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Ria in Aberdeen

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On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:11:47 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:


it litters my in box

Set up a filter. Put it in its own folder.

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jhk

On 06/01/2020 23:33, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

Â*From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.



But if you are disabled it might be preferable to take a longer journey
and not have to struggle over the footbridge at Edgware Road as the OP
complained.

--
Graeme Wall
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:33, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

Â*From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.



But if you are disabled it might be preferable to take a longer journey
and not have to struggle over the footbridge at Edgware Road as the OP
complained.


True, but either way, there are lots of stairs at both Baker St and South
Ken if you use the Circle Line. You save time and avoid most of the stairs
by going the shortest way, via Green Park.

On 07/01/2020 01:22, MissRiaElaine wrote:

On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:

Â* From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing
because it does go the other way round.

Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go
anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least
it was.

The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable
stairs,
would be via Green Park.

Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from
experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person,
particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground.


Good for you, Ria. Two thoughtful posts.

Yes, I want to reduce the changes - and also to use standing-only
services, pedestrian pathways, escalators and stairways as little as
possible. We're talking about a passenger with very little sense of
balance. That wipes out escalators as I must stand beside my wife on an
escalator. Imagine how popular that would make me.

Coming into London from a fair distance - to a morning clinic - the
clockwise option would force peak fares, too !

Raising these sorts of issues certainly sorts out the
type-before-thinkers from the think-before-typingers !

PA