On 19/03/2020 13:53, Graeme Wall wrote:
snip
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.


I think they might just about survive if France and Germany suffer in
terms of deaths and economic damage very much more than the UK, and that
seems an extremely remote possibility (I am of course glad to say).

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

Basil Jet wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:53, Graeme Wall wrote:

I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway,

As I stared at the empty shelves I thought "Thank God McDonnell didn't
become chancellor or we would have five years of this".


I wish I'd thought of that when I was queuing to get into Tesco this
morning, and when I was confronted by the empty shelves and closed
counters, and then in the long queue to check out, made even slower by the
cashier having to explain to many customers that they were limited to ≤3 of
all items. There would then be time-wasting arguments when people said they
were shopping for both themselves and others, so they should be entitled to
double the ration.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:32, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...nd-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814


The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.

I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.


I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.


Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.

On 19/03/2020 16:29, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:32, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...nd-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814


The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.

I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.


I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.


Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.


While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 16:29, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:32, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...nd-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814


The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.

I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.


I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.


Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.


While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.


Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.

On 19 Mar 2020, Recliner wrote
(in article ):

Graeme wrote:
On 19/03/2020 16:29, Recliner wrote:
Graeme wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:32, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...close-and-tran
sport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814

The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured
London
shutdown happens.

I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the
army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any
government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.

I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.

Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.

While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.

Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead

Yes but most of the population there are brain dead already, so how would you
know if they had been affected by a virus?

than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:12:16 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 16:29, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 19/03/2020 13:32, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote:


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...nd-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814


The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.

I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.


I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.


Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.


While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.


Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.

how seriously dead will they be?

--
www.abelard.org

abelard wrote:

how seriously dead will they be?

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.

Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
abelard wrote:

how seriously dead will they be?

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.


https://youtu.be/Jdf5EXo6I68


Anna Noyd-Dryver

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:17:44 -0500, Arthur Conan Doyle
wrote:

abelard wrote:

how seriously dead will they be?

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.

Any cannibals or necrophiliacs here?