I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings. This is to enable social
distancing on the public transport network and help control the spread
of coronavirus. Your card will continue to be valid at all other times
on weekdays and all day on weekends and Bank Holidays. Disabled
Freedom Pass holders are not affected by these changes and can
continue to use their card at all times.

Where possible, we ask you to avoid travelling immediately after 09:00
to help reduce crowding in buses and trains, where the available space
has effectively been reduced to allow for social distancing. If you
have no option other than to use public transport during the morning
peak period, we recommend that you travel using pay as you go with a
contactless card or device or an Oyster card. For more information,
please visit www.tfl.gov.uk/fares.

We thank you again for all your help as we work together to keep
everyone safe.

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings.

I didn't realise that National card holders could travel before 9:30 anyway

All in all, not a restriction I will notice (unless I have to make a trip to
the airport)

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
...
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings.

I didn't realise that National card holders could travel before 9:30 anyway

I think they get exactly the same free use of London buses as Londoners do
(except, of course, that the Croydon Tram has bus fares, but isn't included
for national bus pass holders).


All in all, not a restriction I will notice (unless I have to make a trip to
the airport)

Yes, pretty much the same here.

On 04/06/2020 16:13, Recliner wrote:
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings. This is to enable social
distancing on the public transport network and help control the spread
of coronavirus. Your card will continue to be valid at all other times
on weekdays and all day on weekends and Bank Holidays. Disabled
Freedom Pass holders are not affected by these changes and can
continue to use their card at all times.

Where possible, we ask you to avoid travelling immediately after 09:00
to help reduce crowding in buses and trains, where the available space
has effectively been reduced to allow for social distancing. If you
have no option other than to use public transport during the morning
peak period, we recommend that you travel using pay as you go with a
contactless card or device or an Oyster card. For more information,
please visit www.tfl.gov.uk/fares.

We thank you again for all your help as we work together to keep
everyone safe.

I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport
from 15 June.

On 04/06/2020 16:13, Recliner wrote:
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings. This is to enable social
distancing on the public transport network and help control the spread
of coronavirus. Your card will continue to be valid at all other times
on weekdays and all day on weekends and Bank Holidays. Disabled
Freedom Pass holders are not affected by these changes and can
continue to use their card at all times.

Where possible, we ask you to avoid travelling immediately after 09:00
to help reduce crowding in buses and trains, where the available space
has effectively been reduced to allow for social distancing. If you
have no option other than to use public transport during the morning
peak period, we recommend that you travel using pay as you go with a
contactless card or device or an Oyster card. For more information,
please visit www.tfl.gov.uk/fares.

We thank you again for all your help as we work together to keep
everyone safe.



What does this mean, exactly? For example, is travelling at half past
midnight after 0900 or before it?

And what about the first train in the morning at around 0500? Is that okay?

Why don't they say that it can't be used from 0700 to 0900, say? And
similarly for the evening peak.

And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?

It's wonderful that the link provided gives even less information than
the OP.

On 04/06/2020 17:55, GB wrote:
On 04/06/2020 16:13, Recliner wrote:
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

Â*From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings. This is to enable social
distancing on the public transport network and help control the spread
of coronavirus. Your card will continue to be valid at all other times
on weekdays and all day on weekends and Bank Holidays. Disabled
Freedom Pass holders are not affected by these changes and can
continue to use their card at all times.

Where possible, we ask you to avoid travelling immediately after 09:00
to help reduce crowding in buses and trains, where the available space
has effectively been reduced to allow for social distancing. If you
have no option other than to use public transport during the morning
peak period, we recommend that you travel using pay as you go with a
contactless card or device or an Oyster card. For more information,
please visit www.tfl.gov.uk/fares.

We thank you again for all your help as we work together to keep
everyone safe.



What does this mean, exactly? For example, is travelling at half past
midnight after 0900 or before it?

And what about the first train in the morning at around 0500? Is that okay?

Why don't they say that it can't be used from 0700 to 0900, say? And
similarly for the evening peak.

And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?

It's wonderful that the link provided gives even less information than
the OP.


Ah, sorry. That's all been answered by Tim's second post.

On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote:

I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport
from 15 June.

Where..? Just London or nationwide..?

If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose.

--
Ria in Aberdeen

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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 16:25:56 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
...
I've now received official notification from TfL of the new rule:

From Monday 15 June, we are making temporary changes to the 60+ London
Oyster card and the Older Person's Freedom Pass during morning peak
hours. These changes are being introduced following TfL's funding
agreement with Government which required temporary restrictions for
customers with these concession cards.

Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings.

I didn't realise that National card holders could travel before 9:30 anyway

I think they get exactly the same free use of London buses as Londoners do
(except, of course, that the Croydon Tram has bus fares, but isn't included
for national bus pass holders).

It is reciprocal, the FP holder gets whatever applies to the locals
holding an ENCTS card so if e.g. someone from Greater London visits
Merseyside then they can also (relative to the above) use the bus up
to 06.30.


All in all, not a restriction I will notice (unless I have to make a trip to
the airport)

Yes, pretty much the same here.

On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote:

I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport
from 15 June.

Where..? Just London or nationwide..?

If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose.

Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I
suspect the other countries will follow their lead.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 18:54:49 +0100,
wrote:

On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote:

I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport
from 15 June.

Where..? Just London or nationwide..?

If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose.

Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I
suspect the other countries will follow their lead.

They will need to teach some people how to wear them. I have seen
plenty walking around with the top of their mask below their nostrils.