On Mon, 10 May 2021 10:45:21 -0000 (UTC), Anna Noyd-Dryver
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Didn't know chiltern went to brum [...] I'm not surprised they don't
bother advertising the service.


It's their flagship loco-hauled service with plug-door Mk 3s, I don't know
where you get the idea that they try to hide it?

It's mentioned in their google 'summany' or whatever the correct term is,
on the front page of their website and in the drop-down menu of their
website.


Anna Noyd-Dryver

Comfortable, fast enough, Moor Street quite central. Easy walk to New
Street. Can avoid New Street if journeying further north by going on
to Smethwick to catch a northbound service.

Guy Gorton

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Recliner wrote:
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Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham. Yes, why
would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when they
could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes to
get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a leisurely
tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back to the
80s for these

They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading

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Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham. Yes,
why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back to
the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)


They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading


Don't remember those. I did Southampton - Reading - Edinburgh and return
by HST but that was an XC service of course.


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Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)


They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading


Don't remember those. I did Southampton - Reading - Edinburgh and return
by HST but that was an XC service of course.




Of course,it was easier in early days:

Southampton dep 0733 through train to York, Newcastle, Edinburgh and
Glasgow weekdays.
Timetable I have is not clear as to return times.

OK, it was a while ago, in 1933 via the DN&S ;-)

(Oxford Publishing, ISBN 0-86093-149-8)

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ColinR wrote:
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Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)


They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading


Don't remember those. I did Southampton - Reading - Edinburgh and return
by HST but that was an XC service of course.




Of course,it was easier in early days:

Southampton dep 0733 through train to York, Newcastle, Edinburgh and
Glasgow weekdays.
Timetable I have is not clear as to return times.

OK, it was a while ago, in 1933 via the DN&S ;-)

(Oxford Publishing, ISBN 0-86093-149-8)

So what was the arrival time?

Sam

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Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist

Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)

Paddington-Birmingham via Oxford certainly lasted into the 80s, with
some trains continuing to Manchester, Liverpool, etc. and even one a
day via High Wycombe.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 23:04:54 +0100
Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham. Yes, why
would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when they
could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes to
get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a leisurely
tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back to the
80s for these

They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading


The services into Paddington lasted until 2003
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_CrossCountry


Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 10/05/2021 22:38, ColinR wrote:
On 10/05/2021 21:18, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 10/05/2021 20:45, tim... wrote:


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Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when
they could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west
first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)


They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via
Reading


Don't remember those. I did Southampton - Reading - Edinburgh and
return by HST but that was an XC service of course.




Of course,it was easier in early days:

Southampton dep 0733 through train to York, Newcastle, Edinburgh and
Glasgow weekdays.
Timetable I have is not clear as to return times.

OK, it was a while ago, in 1933 via the DN&S ;-)

(Oxford Publishing, ISBN 0-86093-149-8)


A little before my time.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 23:04:54 +0100
Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when
they could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west
first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist

Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)

Paddington-Birmingham via Oxford certainly lasted into the 80s, with
some trains continuing to Manchester, Liverpool, etc. and even one a
day via High Wycombe.

The Birmingham expresses were the last King-hauled and amongst the
earliest Class 52 hauled. I saw the first 25 of the latter almost
sequentially running through Beaconsfield as they entered traffic.

--
Graeme Wall
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On 10/05/2021 22:46, Sam Wilson wrote:
ColinR wrote:
On 10/05/2021 21:18, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 10/05/2021 20:45, tim... wrote:


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On Sun, 9 May 2021 23:04:54 +0100
Certes wrote:
On 09/05/2021 21:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 15:55:04 GMT
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Express trains on the wycombe line?

Amazingly, your knowledge of geography is even worse than your
knowledge of

engineering or railways!

Oh sorry, I forgot, you think its a main line to birmingham.
Yes, why would
anyone get a train direct from euston to brum on the WCML when
they could
fart around getting there from paddington going via wycombe and
bicester
at a leisurely pace in a diesel train.

Paddington?!?!?

Yes, why would anyone get a train direct from Marylebone when they
could
fart around at West Ealing waiting for a parliamentary to West
Ruislip?

Oh , Marylebone , even better! A nice leisurely tour going west first!
Didn't know chiltern went to brum but looking at the 1:50 it takes
to get
there I'm not surprised they don't bother advertising the service.

But they do

they focus on the much cheaper fares that you can get going that way

And in case you haven't noticed, starting at Padd requires a
leisurely tour going West, and it is a service that used to exist




Castle hauled last time I did it! Only as far as High Wycombe though.

I was thinking of the via Reading services, probably have to go back
to the 80s for these

I was going back to the 60s :-)


They were there to serve the Reading to Brun corridor, but increased
frequency of trains from the South Coast saw them them being withdrawn

IIRC there was even an Edinburgh or Glasgow service from Padd via Reading


Don't remember those. I did Southampton - Reading - Edinburgh and return
by HST but that was an XC service of course.




Of course,it was easier in early days:

Southampton dep 0733 through train to York, Newcastle, Edinburgh and
Glasgow weekdays.
Timetable I have is not clear as to return times.

OK, it was a while ago, in 1933 via the DN&S ;-)

(Oxford Publishing, ISBN 0-86093-149-8)

So what was the arrival time?

Sam


Unfortunately the timetable only goes as far as Didcot with the
additional notation as footnote showing through service as above.

Many other DN&S timetables in the book, but only showing through
services to ex-GWR places such a Birmingham etc.

--
Colin