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Anyone know whats going to happen to the former station building? I was
looking back in streetview yesterday and noticed that in 2017 there was
a sign up saying it would be refurbished:

https://goo.gl/maps/Hjgcm8fMbHLudZjo9

But that vanished in 2018 and the place is still derelict.

I don't know what's going to happen or who is responsible.
It's a handsome building - or at least is when it's in a good state
of repair and decoration - and it should be brought back into use.

I've always been a bit sorry it is no longer part of the public
transport system but as the North Woolwich line has been
converted into a tram service, no formal station buildings are
necessary. I believe for a short time the station was used as a
museum.

North Woolwich station
 

Robin9 wrote:

I don't know what's going to happen or who is responsible.
It's a handsome building - or at least is when it's in a good state
of repair and decoration - and it should be brought back into use.

I've always been a bit sorry it is no longer part of the public
transport system but as the North Woolwich line has been
converted into a tram service, no formal station buildings are
necessary.

It's more like a normal railway than a tram, but the DLR doesn't even pass
close to the old station building. At its closest, the line is almost a
quarter of a mile away.

I believe for a short time the station was used as a museum.

Yes, for 24 years:

From 1984 until 2008 the original station buildings and one disused
platform served as the North Woolwich Old Station Museum, dedicated to the
history of the Great Eastern Railway. The building was then owned by the
Passmore Edwards Museum Trust and run by the London Borough of Newham - on
its closure most of the collection was dispersed and the building passed to
the Trust's successor, the River Lea Tidal Mill Trust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Woolwich_railway_station#North_London_line

There was also a proposal for it to become a heritage line and museum, but
Crossrail took over most of its potential route:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Docks_Heritage_Railway

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On Wed, 26 May 2021 20:32:21 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Robin9 wrote:
I've always been a bit sorry it is no longer part of the public
transport system but as the North Woolwich line has been
converted into a tram service, no formal station buildings are
necessary.

It's more like a normal railway than a tram, but the DLR doesn't even pass

The 3rd rail might be a teensy problem for street running!

There was also a proposal for it to become a heritage line and museum, but
Crossrail took over most of its potential route:

And a road has now been built across whats left of the rest of it so thats
dead in the water.

Wow - 24 years! Slightly more than a short time!

North Woolwich station
 

On Thu, 27 May 2021 10:44:57 +0100, Robin9 wrote:


Wow - 24 years! Slightly more than a short time!

It's a pity that it hasn't found a new role as a museum of the once huge, sprawling network of local dock railways.

North Woolwich station
 

On 27/05/2021 14:16, Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 10:44:57 +0100, Robin9 wrote:


Wow - 24 years! Slightly more than a short time!

It's a pity that it hasn't found a new role as a museum of the once huge, sprawling network of local dock railways.


What would such a museum contain? "Here's is a map of this branch... and
there is a map of that branch... and there is a map of the other branch"

--
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
B-Sides (part 3) - The Coral

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Basil Jet wrote:
On 27/05/2021 14:16, Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 10:44:57 +0100, Robin9 wrote:


Wow - 24 years! Slightly more than a short time!

It's a pity that it hasn't found a new role as a museum of the once
huge, sprawling network of local dock railways.


What would such a museum contain? "Here's is a map of this branch... and
there is a map of that branch... and there is a map of the other branch"


No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

North Woolwich station
 

Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.

Theo

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On 27/05/2021 20:14, Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.


Museum of London holds their archive but I don't know if they routinely
have anything on display.


--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

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On 27/05/2021 20:14, Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.


The Science Museum used to have on display a superb 3D map of the Port
of London but it, along with most of the maritime gallery with it's
collection of ship models, has been in store for decades. Last time I
saw it was about 30 years ago.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.


The Museum of London branch in Docklands (near Canary Wharf) has some
coverage, but I don't recall any coverage of the dock railways. It's more
about the trade through the docks, than the workings of the docks
themselves.

North Woolwich station
 

On Thu, 27 May 2021 21:02:18 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 27/05/2021 20:14, Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.


Museum of London holds their archive but I don't know if they routinely
have anything on display.

The Museum of London Docklands is well worth a visit.

https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/mu...ndon-docklands

North Woolwich station
 

On Thu, 27 May 2021 20:45:43 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London
focused.


The Museum of London branch in Docklands (near Canary Wharf) has some
coverage, but I don't recall any coverage of the dock railways. It's more
about the trade through the docks, than the workings of the docks
themselves.


Beat me to it.

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On Fri, 28 May 2021 06:28:06 +0100
Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 21:02:18 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 27/05/2021 20:14, Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that? There's NMM Greenwich not to away, but that's not London

focused.


Museum of London holds their archive but I don't know if they routinely
have anything on display.

The Museum of London Docklands is well worth a visit.

https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/mu...ndon-docklands

Yup. And its free (or was back when I worked down there). There's a good
section on the jubilee line.

North Woolwich station
 

On 27/05/2021 20:14, Theo wrote:
Recliner wrote:
No, the history of them, how they formed the life-blood of the whole dock
system, and what happened to them after the docks closed. A working scale
model of a dock with its cranes and trains would be good, too.

A Port of London museum could be quite interesting. Do any of the existing
museums cover that?

Museum of London Docklands


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK