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As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london
underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th |
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"captain radio" wrote in message
... As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th I fully agree. Kick out the managers who are wasting resources. |
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£22,000 starting salary? 4 day week? 32 Hours? Surely you RMT lads are
having a laugh aren't you? What makes you think you deserve that? (No doubt you'll quote something along the lines of 'Well-everyone USED to get that'). "captain radio" wrote in message ... As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:08:21 +0100, captain radio
wrote: Roll on June 10th Didnt manage to time this years action with the Euro 2000 championships?? Historically greedy underground staff disrupt services to coincide with major sporting events 4 day week? 32 hours? suppose you want a squash court next so when you takin the **** being off work for 18 months with a poorly ankle you can play squash with your mates from work some people eh? No sympathy from me -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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In article , captain radio
writes As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th I believe that drivers work a 36 hour week, but are only paid for 35. As LUL are currently recruiting SA's it seems funny that they are trying to cut jobs in this area. 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
... 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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In message , captain radio
writes As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th My opinion, FWIW, is that all SAs should be MF trained to better use staff resources. That way a good increase to the starting salary would be reasonable. Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval. -- Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. |
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In message , John Rowland
writes "Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job. As someone pointed out, they're still recruiting SAs; instead of being envious you could apply... -- Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. |
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I would like to see any of my staff siting in 'kiosk' and reading the
sun.Why don't you try standing on your feet for 7+ hours a day and dealing with customers from stupid to plain obnoxious.People who think a uniform is soft target and they can vent all there anger and agression on.Working all hours to take home a decent working wage, if it is such a cushy number why are there not people desperate to join? "John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:30:01 +0100, captain radio
wrote: I would like to see any of my staff siting in 'kiosk' and reading the sun.Why don't you try standing on your feet for 7+ hours a day and dealing with customers from stupid to plain obnoxious.People who think a uniform is soft target and they can vent all there anger and agression on.Working all hours to take home a decent working wage, if it is such a cushy number why are there not people desperate to join? "John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes Oh please How many times have people been to a tube station and there is a queue stretching out the door. 2 out of the three payment windows are closed and the person serving has trouble performing even the most basic task of processing an oyster card application with any speed or haste plus all the automated machines are broken or have no change. Whats worse there are other staff having a chat and a coffee and smirking at the length of the queues. You moan on about the abuse you get, why do you think that is? Its because you are the human face of the underground and when things dont work as best as they could your attitude is poor. You should visit the French Underground or the one in Berlin. Now thats how it shoud be done. No support from me -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:55:52 +0100, Kat
wrote: Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval. I thought in most jobs meal breaks are unpaid? Certainly in all jobs I've done. |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:08:21 +0100, "captain radio"
wrote: As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. Oh jolly good - I'm sure you will enjoy inflicting misery on Londoners. Oh and it's "rank and file" by the way. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. How to win friends and influence people (not). The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Are we excluded from your sweeping statement if we don't work at 55 Broadway? Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th And you think you will get your deal if Steve Norris wins instead of Ken? And if Ken wins you think you will? Dream on - you really have no concept of what being part of TfL actually means, do you? -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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In article , John Rowland
writes "Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... 32 hour, 4 day week? I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!! But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job. LOL!!!! Naughty John. -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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In article , gs writes
How many times have people been to a tube station and there is a queue stretching out the door. 2 out of the three payment windows are closed and the person serving has trouble performing even the most basic task of processing an oyster card application with any speed or haste plus all the automated machines are broken or have no change. Whats worse there are other staff having a chat and a coffee and smirking at the length of the queues. You moan on about the abuse you get, why do you think that is? There are specific exams to be taken to work in the ticket office - if you haven't passed it you can't handle the cash. I agree that ticket machines failing is a real pain. -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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"gs" wrote in message ... Its because you are the human face of the underground and when things dont work as best as they could your attitude is poor. You should visit the French Underground or the one in Berlin. Now thats how it shoud be done. Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues at the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels. |
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"captain radio" wrote in message ... As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a landslide in favour of industrial action. The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger out. Tell you what Just vote thae Mad ******* out instead Ordinary Londoners have already suffered enough under his regin, don't whip the servants shoot the master(bater) innit |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:28:08 +0100, Robin Mayes
wrote: Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues at the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels. Nothing new here then. At the end of the day the London underground is crap. Good idea badly implimented by greedy management and staff who dont give a monkeys. Dirty trains - which wouldnt take much to make them clean If I was in charge of carriage hygiene I would sack every single cleaner and make them re apply for their jobs back and only get re employed once they can prove they can control a cleaning cloth well enough to reach the corners of the windows. Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to what banning smoking did. Ticket Halls. During peak times ensure that all windows are open probably have a dedicated oyster and credit card window or the opposite have a fast track window for small single / return ticket cash purchases only. make sure the vending machines are working and full of change and possibly place a few at platform level to spread out the queues of people waiting to purchase. Trains - make it compulsory for drivers to announce why a train has stopped and the approximate length the stoppage should be. Also by default if a train is stopped in a tunnel the huge fans that they have stuck to the ceiling should be switched on not 45 minutes later like the train I was on when it was stuck in a tunnel between Highbury Corner and Kings X. Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the stream of passengers set the wrong way round?? to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are boarding you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting use the exits further up? -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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"gs" wrote in message
... Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the stream of passengers set the wrong way round?? to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are boarding you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting use the exits further up? It's not wrong. If the entrance was at the eastern end of the platforms, there would be massive congestion as all the lemming passengers waited there instead of using the full length of the platform. Also, the the loading of trains in both directions on this section is such that the eastern end is generally more crowded - with many of these passengers wishing to alight at K+. The current arrangement (i) allows these passengers to leave the platform quickly, and, (ii) prevents the crowded part of trains from becoming even more crowded. |
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k wrote:
On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:55:52 +0100, Kat wrote: Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval. I thought in most jobs meal breaks are unpaid? Certainly in all jobs I've done. Your right although the point being made is that outside of the statutory break required by Law, they have no other breaks. -- gazza "Fight War not Wars" Try S.T.A.R.S. for National & International Tours bookmark www.stars-tours.org.uk |
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On Mon, 31 May 2004 08:23:40 +0000 (UTC), gazza ]
wrote: Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval. I thought in most jobs meal breaks are unpaid? Certainly in all jobs I've done. Your right although the point being made is that outside of the statutory break required by Law, they have no other breaks. Again - same as every job I've done. |
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In message , captain radio
writes The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. I see this number has gone from 700 to 800 to 960+ without any effort at all. And who is 'us' exactly? -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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In message , Andrew P Smith
writes The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th I believe that drivers work a 36 hour week, but are only paid for 35. Quite true, but this is compensated by the disgusting amount of holidays that we apparently get! -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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In article , ] (Steve
Fitzgerald) wrote: In message , Andrew P Smith writes The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55 broadway and other top management jobs. Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now. Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre national rail privatisation. Roll on June 10th I believe that drivers work a 36 hour week, but are only paid for 35. Quite true, but this is compensated by the disgusting amount of holidays that we apparently get! Hmm. I wonder if LU will print the correct figure this time if they take out anti strike adverts. When they quoted the figures before, I phoned the number that they gave and they said they knew nothing about it and gave me the human resources no. I told HR that what they quoted was a load of ******** and explained how the "holiday" total was broken down. They seemed most surprised!. Mind you, given that they decided to class leave as unauthorised absence on the pay slips, perhaps that means we're not getting any holidays at all :-) Roger (my reader sometimes loses mail/newsgroup messages - if you think you should have had a reply/comment, please e-mail me again. Ta!) |
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gs wrote in message ...
Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to what banning smoking did. I wouldn't ban eating on the tube since I think most people do it occasionally if they're in a hurry , I know I have (and where do you draw the line , do you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but I do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason not to have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos these days. B2003 |
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On 4 Jun 2004 01:50:12 -0700, Boltar wrote:
gs wrote in message ... Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to what banning smoking did. I wouldn't ban eating on the tube since I think most people do it occasionally if they're in a hurry , I know I have (and where do you draw the line , do you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but I do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason not to have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos these days. B2003 I see your point but I many times have boarded a train where hot smelly food has been eaten recently and forget the pong, the rubbish left behind is disgusting. Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger on the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not. If they banned hot food would be a start. Hard to enforce as people could sneak food onto the train but in the same way passengers would intervene if someone lit a cigarette, peole could mention and try to discourage it. regards -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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do you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but I do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason not to have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos these days. B2003 Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger on the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not. Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all over with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children? (It would also cut down on overcrowding!) Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not taking their rubbish home with them. |
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:27:08 +0100, "JB"
wrote: Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not taking their rubbish home with them. They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a relatively bomb-proof one..... -- ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Please reply to the group Replies to this address will bounce! ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø |
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In article , JB
writes Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all over with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children? (It would also cut down on overcrowding!) Excellent idea...... Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not taking their rubbish home with them. Blast resistant bins are available, but they will only resist a set pressure level. -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:30 +0100, Cheeky wrote:
They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a relatively bomb-proof one..... The big railway seems to have taken to using clear plastic bin bags hanging from a loop, which may not exactly be bomb-proof but will avoid any additional shrapnel, and hopefully any device would be visible. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To e-mail use neil at the above domain |
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Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all this and in the end put them back. Obviously I meant Westminster Council. As I walk down the Strand there seem to be bins about evey 10 yards (and very clean streets) |
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... In article , JB writes Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all over with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children? (It would also cut down on overcrowding!) Excellent idea...... Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not taking their rubbish home with them. Blast resistant bins are available, but they will only resist a set pressure level. Of course you could chain all those surplus to requirement small children to the blast proof bins to absorb any overpressure...:-) -- Cheers, Steve. |
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"Cheeky" wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:14:45 GMT, (Neil Williams) wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:30 +0100, Cheeky wrote: They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a relatively bomb-proof one..... The big railway seems to have taken to using clear plastic bin bags hanging from a loop, which may not exactly be bomb-proof but will avoid any additional shrapnel, and hopefully any device would be visible. Neil These appeared for a while on the streets in Manchester as well - unfortunately Network Rail/FNW have not cottoned on to this at the stations :-( Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground. |
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"Steve Dulieu" wrote the following
in: "Andrew P Smith" wrote in message ... Blast resistant bins are available, but they will only resist a set pressure level. Of course you could chain all those surplus to requirement small children to the blast proof bins to absorb any overpressure...:-) Nah, that'd be far too messy. -- message by Robin May. Inimitable, but would you want to anyway? "GIVE IN! IT'S TIME TO GO!" - The NHS offers a high standard of care. Kitten in Big Brother: rebel without a cause (or brain). Spelling lesson: then and than are different words. |
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"Robin Mayes" wrote:
"Cheeky" wrote: These appeared for a while on the streets in Manchester as well - unfortunately Network Rail/FNW have not cottoned on to this at the stations :-( Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground. Who are the Transport Security Agency? Do you mean the US Transportation Security Administration www.tsa.gov? If so, I think their interest in litter bins (or indeed trash cans) on the Underground would be limited. Matt Ashby |
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"Matt Ashby" wrote in message om... "Robin Mayes" wrote: "Cheeky" wrote: These appeared for a while on the streets in Manchester as well - unfortunately Network Rail/FNW have not cottoned on to this at the stations :-( Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground. Who are the Transport Security Agency? Do you mean the US Transportation Security Administration www.tsa.gov? If so, I think their interest in litter bins (or indeed trash cans) on the Underground would be limited. Matt Ashby Funnily enough I reckon the US TSA needs as much help as possible with security. When I was in New York every station had litter bins/black rubbish sacks all of which seemed a natural target for bombers. Worse still was Wall Street where the copious number of police officers were using gas lighting to see the crowds with! |
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:30:55 +0100, "Robin Mayes"
wrote: "Cheeky" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:14:45 GMT, (Neil Williams) wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:30 +0100, Cheeky wrote: They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a relatively bomb-proof one..... The big railway seems to have taken to using clear plastic bin bags hanging from a loop, which may not exactly be bomb-proof but will avoid any additional shrapnel, and hopefully any device would be visible. Neil These appeared for a while on the streets in Manchester as well - unfortunately Network Rail/FNW have not cottoned on to this at the stations :-( Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground. OK Mr Smarty Pants - perhaps you'd like to explain why it's possible on some mainline stations but not others? Who *should* I complain about other than the companies who actually run these stations - Network Rail and First North Western? WTH is the Transport Security Agency, anyway? -- ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Please reply to the group Replies to this address will bounce! ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø |
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