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Mark Brader:
ObOn-topic version: indicates that none of the next *four* signals is red,
intended to authorize speeds above 125 mph...

Clive Feather:
Next *three*; the fourth can be red: FG, G, YY, Y, R.

Inclusive reckoning? Yeah, that's it, it was inclusive reckoning.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Domine, defende nos
| Contra hos motores bos!" -- A. D. Godley

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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in
:

I was led to believe that the law regarding filter arrows is thus:

Here's what the law actually says:

[ ** snip chapter & verse ** ]

Thanks Clive. Wading through the legalese (*when* are the Plain English
Society going to start having an influence on those who draw up
legislation? :)) I now know far more than I ever cared to about traffic
lights!

But more importantly you (and other posters) have corrected an erroneous
belief that I had. Thanks.

Iain

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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:52:28 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:
Richard J.:
That was probably a junction where there is a separate complete traffic
signal controlling turning traffic. In other words, you have something
like this:

Red Red
Amber Amber
Green Green-arrow

Just by the way, the analogous layout in *some* jurisdictions in
North America would use arrows for all three lights on the left-turn
signal.

Also in some parts of Europe... Spain, I think? (If you were saying
that *any* diverging route has all colours as arrows.) That would be
good here. There is a junction locally where only the right turn is
controlled - although the green is an arrow the red isn't and people
going straight on often stop or worse aren't sure whether to stop or
not. There is a sign, but nobody seems to read it.

I have a vague memory of seeing a red filter arrow in France. Quite
intuitive after you've got over the surprise.

Talking of surprise, like other people here I'd always assumed that
there was a legal difference between green and green+arrow. Oh
well...

Richard.

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"Richard" wrote ...


I have a vague memory of seeing a red filter arrow in France. Quite
intuitive after you've got over the surprise.


Yes, fairly normal in France, as is the more sensible Red to Green with no
amber (actually used within the British Isles as well - Jersey for example).

Mind you, our lights are far better when it comes to visiblity. The French
lights are so dim that they almost disappear in daylight!